Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct Hey TDL ... I did not get an e-mail from you ... make sure you use my @att addy We took some great FLASH shots of the P-House FOAM PARTY !!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Don't underestimate the American consumer. I did and am living to tell the tale of autograph books, playgrounds, turkey legs.>> Yeah ... let's not even discuss healthcare, education or WalMart ... no, I never underestimate the average American.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<< In one month's time I visited DL, DLP and the MK. I couldn't help but feel that after being at Saks and Neiman Marcus that I suddenly was at Super WalMart. >>> <<I still love that line !!!>> You obviously have great taste!
Originally Posted By karlg >>Last time I rode Haunted mansion, there was this stupid woman taking pics with flash. Other guests were screaming at her "NO PHOTO CON FLASH!!!" several times but she never stopped. Typical memememememe! attitude that prevails in the western World now-a-days.. I don't fight it anymore.<< While with today's digital cameras were pictures are next to free and many people's attitudes today it is a bit of a challenge, at least part of my point was that at DL they tried and for the most part succeeded in keeping people from taking flash pictures. If anything, I would expect it to be harder to control at DL than DCA. At DL they had a much clearer recorded warning at the dock, a cast member telling you at the dock, the skull before the first drop, and if people were taking flash pictures, the P.A. came on to tell people. At DL it was no 100% perfect but it was vastly better than at WDW. In light of some people willingness to ruin the attraction for everyone else, I think WDW/DL needs a warning that people taking flash pictures subject on attractions that prohibit it are to having their cameras confiscated and/or ejection from the park. As far as I am concern the people taking the pictures are stealing the time and money from the other guests that have paid to see the attraction. Take a few people off to security for taking flash pictures at the end of the ride and the problem will be solved very quickly. I’m not saying they have to be draconian about it and I would give people some a few “grace†shots for not knowing how to work their cameras (getting the flash to be off). My system would be: 0. A better and clearer recorded warning at the dock and cast member warning 1. One or two flash pictures, it is probably best to let it go. I don’t want guest to live in fear of making a mistake with their equipment. 2. If there are continual pictures, then a P.A. announcement during the ride 3. If the person continues to take pictures, then they are escorted to security at the end of the ride 4. For a first offense, they can spend an hour or two at security having their ID taken and signing a document that if this happens again, they will be band from the parks. 5. If they end up back at security again, then band them from the park. The problem with flash pictures is that they are doing nothing at WDW to enforce it. To many people these days, a rule or law does not exist if you don’t enforce it. As far as I was concerned, WDW management has let WDW become a dump.
Originally Posted By twirlnhurl Flash pictures on pirates is one thing, but just as common, but far worse, is the incessant flash pictures on the Seas With Nemo and Friends. Not only is the flash annoying, it completely ruins the effects of the ride. At least on pirates, with the flashes, the pirates don't reveal themselves to be peppers ghost.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 the penalty should be simple - the digital camera is taken, the format button is hit, and then the camera is returned when they leave the park
Originally Posted By ChiMike ^ You are no getting into legal issues with the Format. Destruction of "intellectual property" (I say that with all attempts to be serious), as well as privacy protections. Disneyland can get away with what Karl suggested if they had the guts to get their guests under control. What's the point in having rules and laws, if those rules and laws are not enforced??
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 <<<What's the point in having rules and laws, if those rules and laws are not enforced??>>> Exactly!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ChiMike.....yeah I understand that -- they would be my rules, but yes would get me into legal trouble in enacted - I agree......but it doesn't stop me from wanting that rule..
Originally Posted By christiemarsh88 We're very careful not to use flash photography... but we do videotape things like the fireworks. We only get to go about once every 5 years or so, so we need a little Disney-flavored pick-me-up in the interim.
Originally Posted By ghosthost2001 Im a trainer and coordinator for pirates and I agree with you all 100% about the flash photography. Disney does not want us to spiel anymore about flash photos because when we did people were complaining because all they heard was a cast member spieling over the show the whole time. I wish at pirates we had signs that actually posted no flash photography. there is a prerecorded spiel that plays constantly at load. Once whle your waiting to board, once while your in the boat and once again as you are dispatched. Only in the load area are we allowed to spiel anymore and only with our voices. There were also complaints when we used to spiel because not everyone speaks english and if cast members assume another language then were in trouble for spieling that. I hope all of you voice your opinions to Disney so things can get fixed about flash pictures. Pirates is way worse than the Haunted Mansion. I am sorry for all of your anger about this topic and I hope that Disney can start to do something about it.
Originally Posted By figment1986 Mansion rarely had the problem to my knowledge. Pirates on the other hand is worse now than pre rehab... I admit I had taken one flash photo by accident... (old Point and shoot, now I use digital rebel xti and keep flash down) What I don't get, why do people keep flashing and getting the same photo over and over again. Heck, when you use a flash your ruining the lighting / effects and get pale stuff. Perhaps they need to have some safety announcements in the queue (even though people wont listen)... it would at least attempt to help with the problem.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 or announce that "if you take a flash photo, the person seating directly behind you has permission to slap you in the head"....
Originally Posted By oceaneyesrj <karlg:"I when on Pirates 4 times during the week at WDW and never got through it without many flashes going off from just about every boat. It was an absolutely lousy show they put on at WDW. They gave a lecture inside the Hall of PresI when on Pirates 4 times during the week at WDW and never got through it without many flashes going off from just about every boat. It was an absolutely lousy show they put on at WDW. They gave a lecture inside the Hall of Presidents about flash photography, but in Pirates they did nothing (I'm still livid over a week later). The Pirates attraction was out of control and the cast member did nothing to stop it. idents about flash photography, but in Pirates they did nothing (I'm still livid over a week later). The Pirates attraction was out of control and the cast member did nothing to stop it. "> First off, there is a spiel when you board Pirates that says no flash photography. I do agree that it is more than irritating to have constant flashes going off on Pirates. But think of this: How do you honestly expect a cast member to stop it? They don't have random cast members camping out in scenes from the ride to stop things like this. They do, however, have cameras monitoring the ride. But therein lies another problem because they would have to use a PA system to tell people to knock it off with the flash photography. This may sound appealing, but think about it....with huge numbers of people taking flash pictures on this ride, there would have to be a CM announcing over a PA system every 2 minutes or so to stop. So, would you rather have flash photography, or a CM constantly spieling? Personally I'd rather have the flash. At least I'm still seeing everything and the sound isnt being interrupted. Bottom line: People are stupid. You can scream "NO FLASH PHOTOGRAPHY!!" in their face all you want but they'll still do it. And the cast can only do so much with these people. You're asking something that they cannot do. There is no way a CM can go charging in like Gallahad just to stop flash pictures without suffering dire consequences. They have more important things to do like, oh, i dont know, operate a ride filled with upwards of a hundred people at a time?
