Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Nostalgia may well play a factor for bygone attractions such as the original Journey Into Imagination. But I seriously doubt anyone will be nostalgic for either of the versions that replaced it. I also don't see future websites dedicated to Honey, I Overstayed my Welcome and Relevance as an Attraction by 5-6 years when that movie gets retired. My yearnings for nostalgia aren't for a particular attraction, although I miss the original Journey more than anything from EPCOT Center, but more for a mindset at WDI when it came to making magic. That magic came about not from shoehorning characters into every attraction, not having professional urinating contests by different Imagineers and teams in a politically charged atmosphere, not from making blander, less sophisticated (i.e. cheaper) attractions, not by going for two-minute thrill but in pushing the creative and technological envelopes. I see change on the horizon, but whether WDI can ever be what it once was is another matter.
Originally Posted By idleHands <<Nostalgia may well play a factor for bygone attractions such as the original Journey Into Imagination. But I seriously doubt anyone will be nostalgic for either of the versions that replaced it.>> Perhaps the Imagineers who created those versions will be. Of course, most of them from JIYI were fired, and the wonderful art director for JIIWF sadly passed away. *sigh* <<I also don't see future websites dedicated to Honey, I Overstayed my Welcome and Relevance as an Attraction by 5-6 years when that movie gets retired.>> LOL. So true! <<My yearnings for nostalgia aren't for a particular attraction, although I miss the original Journey more than anything from EPCOT Center...>> Ditto! <<... but more for a mindset at WDI when it came to making magic. That magic came about not from shoehorning characters into every attraction...>> "John Lasseter... please call the Disney World operator." <<... not having professional urinating contests by different Imagineers and teams in a politically charged atmosphere...>> "Tom Fitzgerald... please call the Disney World operator." "Tony Baxter... please call the Disney World operator." <<... not from making blander, less sophisticated (i.e. cheaper) attractions, not by going for two-minute thrill but in pushing the creative and technological envelopes.>> "Jay Rasulo... please call the Disney World operator." <<I see change on the horizon, but whether WDI can ever be what it once was is another matter.>> It's over. Done. Fini. The layoffs are coming. Outsourcing will reign supreme. WDI will never be WED again.
Originally Posted By Skellington88 I want WDI to shut down...so that John Lasseter's new organization, W.E.D. 2.0 can rise!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<The layoffs are coming. Outsourcing will reign supreme. WDI will never be WED again.>> Well, WDI in its current state is an embarrassment to the creative legacy of WED. I say let half the staff go and outsource to all the quality ex-WDIers who were forced out of the company. The ones who believe parks like TDS, EPCOT Center and DLP are what Disney should be building instead of things like DSP (shouldn't qualify as a park), DCA and HKDL.
Originally Posted By idleHands <<I say let half the staff go and outsource to all the quality ex-WDIers who were forced out of the company.>> "Steve Kirk... please call the Disney Parks & Resorts operator... Mr. Steve Kirk... please call the Disney Parks & Resorts operator."
Originally Posted By leemac How about: "idleHands...please call the Disney Parks & Resorts operator and pick a new slogan..."
Originally Posted By smeeeko ^^ I thought that was a new slogan.. used to be "tony baxter to the white courtesy phone, please!" =) keep up man!! =P (that's me joking LeeMac, btw) *grin*
Originally Posted By idleHands "I'm sooooo out of touch smeeeko....." Naah, too easy. I'll play nice. 8^)
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 "I'm sooooo out of touch smeeeko....." <<Naah, too easy. I'll play nice. 8^)>> Alas, the Spirit will play nice too and allow that comment to float on off to Never Land.
Originally Posted By Skellington88 Steve Kirk and his wife Eddie Sotto Joe Rhode John Lasseter Pete Docter Wing Chao and Tony Baxter Should be the only "executives" at Walt Disney Imagineering. Under them should be a completly new staff of imagineers consisting of people who are actual disney fans and love the parks and want to respectfully add to the legacy as well as people who have actually worked in park operations and know what works adn what doesnt.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Here's my honest thoughts...and I rode the original 'Imagination' for the first time in 1986. Thought it was charming. Thought the opening scene with the hot air balloon and Dreamfinder and Figment -- one of the best in any Disney theme park. But I'm repeating myself... You could bring back 'Journey Into Imagination' exactly as it was in 1982. Rebuild it to the exact specifications that it was built back then. Dreamfinder, Figment, the big hot air balloon scene in the beginning, all the show scenes with scary words out of books, microscopes, Figment dressed as the Gorton's Fisherman, the dreamy white room, all of it. Exactly as it was in 1982, bring it all back. Drop it back into EPCOTs Future World next summer -- 2007. You know what would happen? It would get all the purists excited, Disney could market the heck out of it for the summer, and then, it would end up having the exact same popularity as the version that is currently there. A walk-on. The 'Imagination' pavilion needs a whole new re-working. There has just got to be more to the imagination than bringing back The Dreamfinder.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb I'm sure there's a compromise somewhere. A new creative attraction with Dream Finder and Figment, perhaps?
Originally Posted By idleHands <<Steve Kirk and his wife Eddie Sotto Joe Rhode John Lasseter Pete Docter Wing Chao and Tony Baxter>> Nice list. But not realistic. The Kirks will remain with Kirk Design. They can do much better under the outsourcing model with their own company. Eddie Sotto seems to be MIA, after leaving WDI for greener pastures. And like with the Kirks, I feel Eddie would be better utilized with his own firm doing consultant work. Joe Rohde? Speak to me, babe. He gets my vote as Executive Art Director for all the Disney parks. Plus a big fat promotion to Senior Vice President which is looooooooooooooooong overdue!!! John Lasseter and Pete Docter. Advisory roles only, please. Keep them based in Emeryville. Place them in some kind of "Imagineering Exchange Program" where they can "travel abroad" to Glendale, but nothing permanent. Wing Chao? Jury is still out. Tony Baxter? Well, gee... isn't it obvious? Executive Vice President for Creative Development. Which is currently held by Tom Fitzgerald. And IMHO, should not be.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Joe Rohde? Speak to me, babe. He gets my vote as Executive Art Director for all the Disney parks. Plus a big fat promotion to Senior Vice President which is looooooooooooooooong overdue!!!>> Joe is Creative Executive for WDI. That isn't your average VP role. He wants to remain a creative exec and hence has not been interested in any other role. He is currently pursuing projects other than DAK. Eric Jacobson is the E-VP responsible for the US parks.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Joe Rhode>> Labuda, your touch is slipping. That post has been there for over 14 hours without your input!
Originally Posted By Labuda Yeah, I've been busy. Anyhow, ayone who's a *TRUE* Disney fan know's Joe's last name is Rohde. Anyone who spells it wrong is obviously some casual fan who doens't belong in the same category as folks like you & I, Lee. Who the heck *IS* this Joe Rhode person anyway? Is he a rock? Is he an island?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Dreamfinder back in a big way-- the September 9th event has a WDCC piece with Figment being held by Dreamfinder
