Originally Posted By mele I think, in general, people take offense whenever the word "stupid" is used. It's just not a good word to use even though it is perfect sometimes.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I agree with what wahoo is saying -- in retrospect, Obama should have just stayed out of the whole issue. It would up completely hijacking his entire press conference about.... what was it about again?
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 I agree with what wahoo is saying -- in retrospect, Obama should have just stayed out of the whole issue. It would up completely hijacking his entire press conference about.... what was it about again?<< John Stewart summed it up perfectly last week when he made light of that fact. If you havent seen it yet, watch it, it's frigging hilarious. <a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/07/24/jon-stewart-obama-handled-gates-racism-question-stupidly" target="_blank">http://newsbusters.org/blogs/n...stupidly</a>
Originally Posted By Dabob2 He could hardly not answer the question once it was raised, unfortunately. <When did you last hear a President refer to something as "stupid"...let alone another governmental entity? > Ay yi yi, ya'll. It's one word. An accurate word, but yeah, an impolitic one that Obama himself has already said was not the wisest word he could have used. The reaction has been completely out of proportion to any supposed "offense." And what's interesting is some of the media people who claim to be the most "offended" are the very people who usually claim that "pc is out of control" and people shouldn't be so quick to take offense at things.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper It isn't his use of the word. It is the entire thought that he decided to judge the situation at all. He had very few facts and passed judgment on the officer/department...in a rather un-Presidential manner. It isn't simply about the word.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I don't buy it. He said he didn't have all the facts essentially as a way of being polite and soft-pedaling it. He knew the one pertinent fact - Gates was arrested when no crime was committed.
Originally Posted By mawnck Plain talk from the President? Heaven forbid! As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather he speak his piece unencumbered by the need to parse every dang word or phrase in advance. (See also: "You'd have some splainin to do")
Originally Posted By ecdc >>The reaction has been completely out of proportion to any supposed "offense." And what's interesting is some of the media people who claim to be the most "offended" are the very people who usually claim that "pc is out of control" and people shouldn't be so quick to take offense at things.<< We have a winner! How many of the people that are complaining about his use of the word stupid are also people who whine and moan about the teleprompter. The man speaks off the cuff and they whine. He speaks from prepared remarks and they whine. Anything to chuck at Obama. Anything to complain about. Anything to be dissatisfied about government and politics. And people really wonder why our system is a mess? You get what you deserve, and boy do we ever deserve this.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***in a rather un-Presidential manner*** Oh, brother. Let's just go backwards, shall we... Bush, already covered ("dead or alive", "bring it on", etc..., not to mention that "major league *******" comment from the campaign trail). Clinton, Oral in the Oval. Daddy Bush, "Boy, they were big on crematoriums, weren't they?", vomits on Prime Minister of Japan. Ray-Gun, casually jokes (hot mike) about nuking Russia. Jimmy Carter, cruelty to animals, particularly dangerous bunny rabbits. Seems to me that the President is acting *perfectly* "Presidential".
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Quite the standard he has to live up to, isn't it? We all should be so proud.