Originally Posted By tashajilek After visiting WDW i really appreciate almost everything about Disneyland. If tourists visited DL then maybe it would be run down and have lower standards like WDW. I would rather have AP's visiting the park and helping DL keep their higher standards then having a crappy "less busy" park. Anyways, i felt that a lot of tourists are worse then APers and feel entitled because they spend so much money. Also i would like to add it is pretty insulting to take digs at Apers who happen to offer everybody here constant park updates and pictures.
Originally Posted By Donny Boy post 21 is sooooo true.Kevin Yee had a great term for what he sees happening at WDW he calls it the "Rizo effect".At Muppet's 3D Gonzo trys to fool people by dressing up Rizo the rat like Mickey Mouse when Sam Eagle calls them out Rizo says "They are tourists what do they know"
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom My point is that you can't blame Fast Pass for everything wrong with the rides/ attractions in the WDW parks. FP has it's faults, but I'm afraid there are bigger problems afoot in WDW. Rides/ attractions that are consistently run at half capacity, "new" rides with unreasonably slow loading ( Nemo ). I'm afraid that "fixing" FP will only render limited results and improvements.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Well, I'd like to make the point that the parks were much better off without Fast Pass to begin with. You didn't have to worry about conflicting events nearly so much before Fast pass came along. But I blame management for creating a system that only brings about problems that didn't exist before there was a Fast Pass system. Like so many other times, management has 'fixed' something that wasn't broken to begin with.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Well, ORDDU, I think that they thought that it was going to be a simple low maintenance perk. They were wrong about that I think, and now cannot see a way out unless they super-size it, basically cutting out all of us day trippers, via broomstick or car, from the scenario.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Fast Pass could work if the return times were andhered too and ONLY if Disney issued a proper number of FP tickets. Em reported yesterday that the standby line for BTMRR had a three hour wait time till it was shut down due to the crazy number of FPs issued. So yesterday afternoon only FPers were allowed on BTMRR. As one person stated, Disney is issueing way too many FPs on particular ride.
Originally Posted By tashajilek 3 hours??? what the heck is going on over there? it was never 3 hours even on Christmas. "So yesterday afternoon only FPers were allowed on BTMRR." Thats total bs.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb I think -em was talking about Splash not BTMRR. Either way, they clearly issued too many FPs per return hour. Bad planning there.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt If there were that many FPs issued and the standby wait time was 3 hours I suspect that the park must have been mobbed. Is it Spring Break in Florida?
Originally Posted By sjhym333 Yes. Many of our schools are on spring break this week, some next week and more the week after that. It will crowded thru Easter at this point
Originally Posted By Manfried "Like so many other times, management has 'fixed' something that wasn't broken to begin with. " ORDDU, I agree with what you said.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Well I will confess. I was one of those AP Abusers. In the beginning I could go by myself and take all my family AP's and get their Fps if I wanted to. A few of us figured that out and so did Disney! That is when they changed their system and it had to be officially used at the entrance turnstiles before the FP would be allowed.Of course I am not a local so I only "gamed" the system occasionally. I know there was a lot of locals that figured this out cause it was talked about on these boards. That is probably how I figured that out! It was great for awhile since I really liked experiencing the daytime and nighttime attractions. Sorry I guess this FP nightmare is my fault!
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub A few things about xPass that bother me are the ways Disneyworld is planning to manipulate it, themselves. I noticed they had been offering advance Fps to registered resort guests as part of an enticement to book at their hotels during February. I don't think anybody noticed that affect with the normal guest usage as making a FP unavailable. ANd Disney does plan to only allow an advanced/ limited 4choice FP per resort stay. Apparently this feature diminishes according to how advanced your booking was and how close your arrival date is! Seriously would you stay at a Deluxe paying 500- 700 per night and be told your extra amenity is that ...? I also question "blocking' off half of the Fantasmic seating arena because the computer has determined Xamount of people will fit. I hope this computer knows an average guest might need to take up a 2or3 average guest size in that seat. Not to mention all of the other factors that destroy a computers plans. Ride breakdowns,weather delays or cancellations, traffic problems,etc. Good luck to WDW with all the next generation plans. It will be interesting. I personally am already tired of being monitored and tracked online. Do you really want to be receiving a constant xpass/next gen enticement to hurry to the popcorn line since you are walking past it and it is shorter line than normal? Does not want to be manipulated in my future world. Hope xpass does not make me ZPass future world as in Zero Guest .
