Frigid January Occupancy Numbers

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    Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt

    <<Macy's had plenty of sales (got a great $86 shirt for $7.40), but plenty of the salespeople were standing near registers that weren't humming.>>

    I even used my 20% off coupon & got kids tops $36 down to $3.34!!! WWOOOWWHHOO!!
     
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    Originally Posted By vbdad55

    Trippy - it is NOT a small% of homeowners affected.

    Use this site - pick a state and a zip code and search around for foreclosures and pre foreclosures. In my area 60540 ( one of the supposedly more affluent around here ) search the far west end- in some cases 1 housein 10 involved -- that is hardly a small%

    <a href="http://www.realtytrac.com/pub/landing/optimized_c.asp?a=b&accnt=16050" target="_blank">http://www.realtytrac.com/pub/...nt=16050</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    My suburb (Roseville, MN) had 17 in foreclosure and 0 in pre-foreclosure. Out of a base of 9,298 single family homes (total from the Roseville City Website) that is less than two tenths of 1%.

    Ours is not one of the most affluent communities in the Twin Cities. It is solidly middle class - upper middle class (majority being middle-middle).

    I think foreclosures fall primarily at the extremes. Many at the bottom and at the top reached just a little too hard for that brass ring. Those at the bottom took advantage of their first chance ever to buy a home. Those at the top figured the good times would continue to roll and they didn’t.
     
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    Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt

    Do these figures include multi-familys?

    We have a lot of those where I am. Out-of-towners bought them to make a buck on renters then, it all fell apart, now they basically abandoned the properties.
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    <<Do these figures include multi-familys?>>

    Yes, both the foreclosure data and the base number of homes data include condo and townhome type developments.
     
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    Originally Posted By hopemax

    Latest report, half of all mortgage owners that were renegotiated are in trouble again.

    > please tell us what you would do about it. Whatever you think is necessary... government actions, private actions, whatever.

    Certainly folks with such insight and wisdom have good ideas on what we need to do.<

    If only cancer and other diseases were as easy to cure as they are to diagnose. I think this is the same type of thing. The ability to recognize problems =/ the ability to solve problems.
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    <<<<Do these figures include multi-familys?>>

    Yes, both the foreclosure data and the base number of homes data include condo and townhome type developments.>>

    To add information... Roseville has very few of those single-family/multi-unit developments since the vast majority of its housing was constructed during the 50's, 60's and 70's.
     
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    Originally Posted By bobbelee9

    <<<Invest in Campbell's Soup.>>>

    When my oldest moved out on her own, she ate a lot of tomato soup and bagels.
     
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    Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey

    I lived on peanut butter and jelly sandwiches when I was in teacher training summer before last.
     
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    Originally Posted By bobbelee9

    ^^^I hope your meals are better now, my daughter's sure are. When you make your choices and have to sacrifice, hopefully you appreciate what you get later.
     
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    Originally Posted By MPierce

    >> When my oldest moved out on her own, she ate a lot of tomato soup and bagels. <<

    >> I lived on peanut butter and jelly sandwiches when I was in teacher training summer before last. <<

    When I moved away from home I could only afford to eat dirt.
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    <<When I moved away from home I could only afford to eat dirt.>>

    You must have moved to California.
     
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    Originally Posted By davewasbaloo

    Hmmmm, poor student days. Beans on toast (maybe a little cheese if a special occassion) or spagetti!

    Man no wonder I was thinner then, I walked everywhere too.
     
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    Originally Posted By MPierce

    I did a test, and attempted to book Through Central Reservations Office, and check with some travel agencies. I have some interesting results that I will post in the next few days. I can guaruntee you that WDW bookings of what is available changes from day to day. I've already discovered that much.
     
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    Originally Posted By MPierce

    For those interested I could book a room at ASM or CBR today for the last week of January. One day you can book them the next day maybe you can't. I have noticed different availability for room choices at several Resort that change day to day.
    I really don't know the logic behind this at all. Test it for yourself.
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    <<One day you can book them the next day maybe you can't. I have noticed different availability for room choices at several Resort that change day to day.
    I really don't know the logic behind this at all.>>

    It could just be cancellations constantly impacting room availability. Several times I've put myself on a waiting list through DVC when the dates and accommodation I wanted were not available. So far I've always ended up getting what I wanted, so there must routinely be many cancellations.
     
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    Originally Posted By brerroadrunner

    I have always had this situation wih CR when booking at Fort Wilderness campground. I had heard along the ways that they only book so many loops and then open them at later dates to accept more reservations, thus explaining why one day they are full and a week later there are vacancies.I don't know if there is any truth to this, because there doesn't seem to be any good reasoning to it.
    But 9 times out of 10 I have to keep calling and calling till I get my dates. Sometimes I can get partial dates and continue to add on. It is hard to believe there would be so many cancellations all the time. I have always been able to get my dates one way or another, even in Dec.1999 for the Millenium. I didn't get them until November, but I got them after calling every day for about a year.
     
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    Originally Posted By MPierce

    >> It could just be cancellations constantly impacting room availability. Several times I've put myself on a waiting list through DVC when the dates and accommodation I wanted were not available. So far I've always ended up getting what I wanted, so there must routinely be many cancellations. <<

    Yes it could be cancellations, but it sure seems peculiar to me.
    Yesterday the only availability at the Wilderness Lodge was woods view bunk bed, or courtyard view bunkbed. Today You could book anything. That was calling CRO, and talking to a CM both times.
     
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    Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad

    It seems that Spirit could be right, although I can't understand why Disney would turn away reservations because it is my understanding that each resort is run as a separate business so they would try to keep as many guests for their resort as possible because in effect the resorts are all competing.( Nikki, hows that for a run on sentence. Bet your 5th graders would be proud)
     
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    Originally Posted By SuperDry

    I don't know if what I say below applies to WDW resort bookings, but it definitely applies in many hotel booking situations elsewhere:

    Many hotels sell a lot of their rooms through "consolidators" of various types. Among other things, this includes package travel companies that might bundle hotel, airfare, and hotel transfers or a rental car into a single package deal at a discount. Yea, I know: WDW Travel sells a great deal of rooms themselves in this format. What I'm saying is that there are third-party companies that do this in general and sell their packages through travel agents, and include many hotels and resorts that do not do package deals on their own.

    The thing is, these consolidator bookings are usually done through a completely different booking engine (that is, software and database) than is used for regular bookings. So, the hotel will set aside a block of rooms for consolidator bookings and not load them into the regular database or even their own database as being available. This way, the consolidators can sell and confirm rooms without having a realtime interface into the hotel's reservation system. At certain points in time, the consolidator releases unsold rooms from their block back to the hotel, who then loads them into the regular database and sells them.

    All of the above can results in rooms suddenly becoming available, even on previously "sold out" nights. This is especially true as you get close to the actual date of stay. And, since WDW has a large number of bookings from overseas, it might especially apply to bookings from countries where WDW Travel doesn't have a presence themselves.
     

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