Originally Posted By fkurucz <Especially if you bought it for a half a million dollars and it's only worth $300,000 now.>> Try talking that homedebtor into into believing he isn't broke.
Originally Posted By itsme >>It's easy to put out garbage information when you know that no one is ever going to come back and revisit the topic 6 months from now. Disney won't release their occupancy rates for the quarter until April or May of next year. By then, this thread will be buried under a thousand others. Verifying its accuracy is something that won't ever get done, and its easy for people to stake their "reputations" on bogus information that they know will never be put to the test of reality 6 months down the road.>> SportGoofy, Please discontinue any use of common sense and logic in threads like these, It hurts the premise of what is trying to be accomplished.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh They still haven't reduced prices. It's $250 to 300 a night for a room at the AKL in mid-january. A suite at Cornado Springs is $665 a night.
Originally Posted By Tristan Disney has seen this coming for a long time actually. Before the stock market tumbled they were cutting entertainment left and right. Especially the outside groups that come in and do shows for them. They cut Fantasmic down to like one night a week starting in January and they announced that before the economic downturn. They've also instituted the buy 4 get 3 nights free deal and launched a whole new "celebration" where people actually get in free. The point being they seem to know what to expect and are taking steps to avoid doing anything drastic. They actually seem to be making good decisions here. Disney should be fine. Universal might take a pretty big hit though ...
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<They still haven't reduced prices. It's $250 to 300 a night for a room at the AKL in mid-january. A suite at Cornado Springs is $665 a night.>> Perhaps they figure that discounts won't bring in the "I'm broke" crowd, so might as well gouge those who will come regardless of the economy.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I certainly would never want to dispute The Spirit or his minion MPierce. That would give me absolutely no joy whatsoever. But in this particular instance The Spirit must have acquired his information from someone who had no clue what he was talking about. I decided to go to Disney's online reservation site and see what I could find for several resorts I picked at random. I looked for lodging for two, with a check-in of 01/10/09 and a check-out of 01/17/09. Here are the results; Boardwalk Inn Unavailable Yacht Club Unavailable Polynesian Unavailable Wilderness Lodge Unavailable Port Orleans Riverside Unavailable Caribbean Beach Unavailable All Star Music Unavailable One of the resorts I checked did have space. But of course this resort ALWAYS has space. Saratoga Springs AVAILABLE!! Sorry Spirit. No Cigar. Not even Close.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I certainly would never want to dispute The Spirit or his minion MPierce. That would give me absolutely no joy whatsoever. But in this particular instance The Spirit must have acquired his information from someone who had no clue what he was talking about. << Have you ever read anything I've written in this forum where I personally attacked anyone reguardless of their view point?
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I decided to go to Disney's online reservation site and see what I could find for several resorts I picked at random. I looked for lodging for two, with a check-in of 01/10/09 and a check-out of 01/17/09. Here are the results; Boardwalk Inn Unavailable Yacht Club Unavailable Polynesian Unavailable Wilderness Lodge Unavailable Port Orleans Riverside Unavailable Caribbean Beach Unavailable All Star Music Unavailable One of the resorts I checked did have space. But of course this resort ALWAYS has space. Saratoga Springs AVAILABLE!! Sorry Spirit. No Cigar. Not even Close. << Right smack dab in the middle of those dates is the marathon. It always sells out. Why not give them a call, and talk to a real person. You might be surprised what you come up with. Try not using the days of 1/10 & 1/11.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> They still haven't reduced prices. It's $250 to 300 a night for a room at the AKL in mid-january. A suite at Cornado Springs is $665 a night. << Did you use the discount code?
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I don't want to go in January..To cold for Kali River << Don't be a big Sissy!
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Have you ever read anything I've written in this forum where I personally attacked anyone reguardless of their view point?>> Good lord. What is the problem? I attacked no one. I just said it appeared that whoever gave Spirit the information apparently didn't have it right. I made no judgment on Spirit whatsoever.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Good lord. What is the problem? I attacked no one. I just said it appeared that whoever gave Spirit the information apparently didn't have it right. I made no judgment on Spirit whatsoever. << Maybe I didn't make myself clear. I meant feel free to disagree with me on anything. I never thought you made a judgement on anyone. >> I certainly would never want to dispute The Spirit or his minion MPierce. That would give me absolutely no joy whatsoever. << Those lines are what I was referring to. I thouht perhaps you thought an arguement would ensue if you disagreed. Sorry for any misunderstanding.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Did you use the discount code?> Is there one? Where would I find it? And if occupancy rates are so low, why isn't Disney advertising the discount code? I would book a trip now if the rates were reasonable.
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt <<Don't be a big Sissy!>> I'm not a sissy!! Sissys are those dorks that wear rain coats on the water rides!!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Is there one? Where would I find it? And if occupancy rates are so low, why isn't Disney advertising the discount code? I would book a trip now if the rates were reasonable.<< <a href="http://www.mousesavers.com/packages.html#fairytale" target="_blank">http://www.mousesavers.com/pac...airytale</a> Go to mousavers.com. The codes can sometimes be a little tricky to find so I included a direct link. This offer is due to expire 12/20/08.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I'm not a sissy!! Sissys are those dorks that wear rain coats on the water rides!! << I always carry my umbrella.
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt Thanks for the link MPierce.. I think our next trip will be summer 2010 to DL.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Right smack dab in the middle of those dates is the marathon. It always sells out. Why not give them a call, and talk to a real person. You might be surprised what you come up with. Try not using the days of 1/10 & 1/11. >> I was not trying to rig the inquiry. I had no idea what dates the marathon was. I tried again using the dates of 1/17/09 check-in and 1/24/09 check-out. Here are the results; All Star Sports No availability All Star Music No availability All Star Movies No availability Pop Century No availability Caribbean Beach No availability Polynesian Available Yacht Club Available Port Orleans French Quarter Available Port Orleans Riverside Available So it looks like January is cheapskate month. ;-) All of the values are full as well as the Caribbean Beach. The 4 Values total 8,426 rooms and the CBR adds another 2,112 rooms. That means that 10,538 of Disney’s approximately 25,000 rooms are booked. Even if absolutely no rooms have been booked at any of the other Disney Resorts (which we know is not the case) occupancy would still be 42%. A 35% occupancy figure just does not add up. Again, I am making no judgment of any LP'er (thanks for the clarification MPierce). I just think The Spirit may have been given poor information. I certainly don't think he is trying to deceive anyone.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip ^^^ I realize that the data above applies to that week only and may not be representative. I still feel certain that an occupancy rate of 35% is way low.
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt I pointed this "NO AVAILABILITY" issue out in the Cancellation thread. All I could find available was The Boardwalk. Basically, it seems, The rich get righer & the rest of us get government cheese.
