Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt <<Yeah, whatever. Let's talk about what's important - Have you heard anything about Disney cutting their rates in order to boost the occupancy rate?>> Just the buy 4 nites get 3 free!
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA So, to recap -- the argument here is 'The economy is tanking' vs. 'The economy isn't that bad' Got it. The reporting is annoying as heck. First, the word is 'Black Friday will be terrible.'. Lo and behold, Black Friday was a great day for retail sales. So was Saturday. So was Sunday. And Cyber Monday was also strong. Yesterday the report is that NOVEMBER sales were down from last year. See? The old 'no win' situation.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<See? The old 'no win' situation.>> Of course. Good news doesn't sell newspapers or get people to tune in to the 5 o'clock news. People NEVER talk about good new on Internet blogs... NEVER. Most people today walk around with a little black cloud over their head like Joe Btfsplk. Sorry. I refuse to play that game. I'm glad there are a few others here who join me.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh "I got a new suit of clothes a pretty red rose. And a woman I can call my friend ... These are better days baby. There's better days shining through ..."
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Of course, they'd be even better if I could get the AKL for less than $200 a night in mid-January.
Originally Posted By MPierce That's very true that bad news sells. However I don't think they are making up the big 3 cratering. I don't think they made up the financial crisis in our banking system. I don't think they are making up the World wide financial crisis. A barrel of oil is selling for less than a third of what it was 2 months ago. I won't even get into folks 401. Yes it is confusing when sales nation wide in retail are only down by 2%. You would think it has been cut in half by the way some folks carry on. Definetly some areas of the Country are much more impacted then others. I am certain that our economy will recover, and I am certain that we are in tough economic times as a Nation now. One other thing I am certain about is I can take a WDW vacation now, and save about 40%. I've never heard of that big of a discount before. There has to be a reason behind it.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Of course, they'd be even better if I could get the AKL for less than $200 a night in mid-January. << Why, are they saying their book solid for January also?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh No, but they're saying rates are $240 for weekdays, $270 for weekends, plus taxes and resort fees. That's a little more than I'm willing to spend right now.
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<Have you heard anything about Disney cutting their rates in order to boost the occupancy rate?>> The thing about WDW is that they target multiple demographics. Some might not need "deals" as an incentive. For this reason I would expect fewer deals at the Deluxe resorts.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Yeah, maybe. But they've offered deals on deluxes before when they've been slow. I got a good rate on the WL back in 2003, plus some pretty good rates on moderates over the years. If January occupancy rates are as bad as reported, they don't seem to be cutting prices to compensate.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> No, but they're saying rates are $240 for weekdays, $270 for weekends, plus taxes and resort fees. That's a little more than I'm willing to spend right now. << That's curious what days are you keying in?
Originally Posted By MPierce I'm getting $1655.24 for 7 nights, standard view, 7 day park hopper's for 2 Adults. Plus $200 gift card.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Too bad I can't go a week later. Looks like the trouble is MLK weekend. At least now they've got a winter special going so we can try to book a room only. They didn't have that last week when I looked.
Originally Posted By kennect MPierce, Who did you book this through? I guess it sounds like a good deal...And actually it must be a good deal...
Originally Posted By kennect Oh, I just checked the room rates on the WDW site for 2009...What a scary experience...First off, they ask what resort I wanted and what dates..So I put in some info and it comes back listing all resorts...And if it weren't bad enough they are apparently trying to scare off all customers by listing the bottom of the barrel rate for a room up to whatever the suites cost...Wouldn't it make better sense for them to say starting at whatever price instead of saying something like, "Starting at 240.00 a night to 2,000.00 a night"...For me there just seems to be something that is so off about WDW and the whole way the thing is operated...I am not talking about upkeep and new attractions...I am talking about the overall scheme including the resorts...Anyone would be a complete fool to book something online with them...They are listing prices they are never going to get unless you are a complete boob and just have no better sense than to go ahead and book what they are showing...Like that is anything new...Going to any Disney park for a vacation isn't cheap but for some reason it seems to me that WDW really wants to gut you for whatever they can...
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Sorry. I refuse to play that game. I'm glad there are a few others here who join me. < maybe you can ask the 600,000 people who lost their jobs last month- or the 500K ( now that they've corrected the figures) each of the 2 months before that to join in the rosy picture outlook.- and hold onto your hats for January -- because it hasn't hit you yet is great -- for you, but this denial that we are likely in the worst economic times in 75 years is really wrong to those who are really suffering. If you don't know any maybe we all need to move to Minnesota... and yes gas prices are down - a period of 'deflation' is not exactly what we need either....look at the history of that
