Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 I douobt it's aimed at tourists from Disneyland. From the looks of it, it's aimed at locals and convention-goers. The fact that it will syphon some guests off of Disneyland and Downtown Disney will be an extra perk. I know a lot of those places are the same kinds of things most people in the US can get at home, but really, if you're hungry and don't want to pay for food in the park, or the restaurants are full, then you're going to go over there to eat. How many people eat at Mimi's, Denny's, McDonalds, etc. now? I'm sure a lot of the locals will eat at Garden Walk, and it will do fairly well. We'll see how the Downtown Disney expansion is handled in reaction to this now! I'm also amazed at how quickly things are moving along, especially considering how LONG this thing took to even get off the ground.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney ^^I don't think anyone is saying this is PRIMARILY for DL tourists, but that I'm sure a huge factor of creating it came with them in mind just like the convention people. You got 50,000-75,000 people on DLR property on any given day there and less than a fourth of a mile away, somebody is including them SOMEWHERE!! And yeah, folks gotta eat .
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt This thing would not be built in that particular spot if Disneyland Resort was not around the corner.
Originally Posted By spacejockey I would rather have DVC built in GW than take up valuable land in DLR. Plus it looks like a nice second runner up if the Disney hotels are full than I wouldn't mind staying at the GW.
Originally Posted By alexbook The newest info I could find on the web site was from last November. What am I missing? I haven't seen anything recently about Borders as a tenant. Does anybody know if they dropped out?
Originally Posted By Judy from Boise I agree there is a little elitism going on....trust me, many tourists and conventioneers alike do not have those restaurants easily accesable where they live.I have managed to eat at the Cheesecake factory 3 times in Vegas, once in Seattle, and once in Nashville, since i left SoCal in 1991!
Originally Posted By bean Think of the possibilities if disney does decide to join the Garden Walk tenants for DVC hotel units. The plan calls for three hotels in the eastern edge of the land. What are the advantages? The main advantage would be the close proximity to the land designated for a second parking structure. Also if Disney did decide to become a tenant in one or maybe two of those hotel sites the initial plans for a transportation system running down S. Clementine street south towards the entrance of a possible third gate for the future. The same transportation would then run west down disney way stop at the parking structure and continue to a stop in the east esplanade next to DCA and Disneyland. As far the rest of Gardenwalk, we also need to remember that even though it is geared towards tourism the variety of tenants will help lure locals and workers from local bussiness. The area still has several large bussiness blocks from the area. The area now lacks places to go eat during lunch hour.
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster Anaheim has always been sorely lacking in the restaurant department. I have no doubt all the restaurants in GardenWalk will be extremely popular. I'm sure it will be popular with conventioneers and locals alike. And tourists LOVE chain restaurants.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<I agree there is a little elitism going on....trust me, many tourists and conventioneers alike do not have those restaurants easily accesable where they live.I have managed to eat at the Cheesecake factory 3 times in Vegas, once in Seattle, and once in Nashville, since i left SoCal in 1991!>> I actually went to the Cheesecake factory for the first time in my life last year by Redondo Beach and yeah, LOVED it!! Man, I DO miss L.A. sometimes . And yeah, although these restaurants may not be a big deal for the SoCal people anymore, I imagine most places out of this area, they are pretty darn cool. Let me put it to you THIS way: I live Korea and we have a few really truly nice restaurants here. You want to know what is considered a 5 **STAR** restaurant here? We have two: TGIF's and Outback Steak house!! If you live in Seoul, then you get to add Tony Roma's to that list, but that's about it. I know, but it's true lol. These restaurants are the best of the best in my city where as in America people look down at them as some bargain basement family dining, but where I live they are the cream of the crop and packed every weekend. People have proposed marriage in them, had huge birthday celebrations (I had one in Outback before ), go for family gatherings and its ALWAYS the place to go when you want to 'impress' your first date....unless you hate American food then its all void lol. I guess what I'm saying is when you look at it from different perspectives, these are some pretty cool places and for an average tourist who lives in Arizona somewhere who don't get many Bubba Gumps, they will be impressed .
Originally Posted By WorldDisney HAPPY BIRTHDAY DISN- (Somebody whispers in WD's ear) What? WHEN did we stoping that?? Oh, never mind ;D
Originally Posted By jonvn At the risk of sounding elitist... what on earth is the attraction of the cheesecake factory? I've never understood this. They have bland oversalted food that they serve in giant portions, and ok enough cheesecake that you can get pretty much anywhere. Why do people wait 2 hours for this?
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster I'm not a Cheesecake Factory fan either. It's where I've had the worst filet mignon of my life. But it's popular for some reason. Americans do love their mammoth portions. There's a Cheesecake Factory being built three blocks from my home (in downtown Glendale) and I doubt I'll ever go there.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney ^^LOL, those mammoth poportions nearly killed me when I ate there, but nearly a restaurant in America does though. I'm an Asia guy, no matter how small a portion is in America, expect the Asian to be at least a third smaller .
Originally Posted By jonvn We split everything. Two ways, sometimes three ways. It still ends up being too much food usually. It's a lot cheaper that way.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 "Also if Disney did decide to become a tenant in one or maybe two of those hotel sites the initial plans for a transportation system running down S. Clementine street south towards the entrance of a possible third gate for the future." What type of transportation system are we talking about here?? I would love to see more monorails, or even a people mover-type system. Really, almost anything would be cool -- just as long as we're not talking buses!!
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Why do people wait 2 hours for this?" I've never understood it either. Here in San Francisco (where there are more good restaurants than you can shake a stick at) the waits are often over an hour. It's unbelievable.
Originally Posted By jonvn I actually ate at the one on top of Macy's! We milled around the area for a bit, then went up there. And ate food. It was....ok. There are 4500 restaurants in San Francisco. Literally. That's about 100 per square mile. This one ranks somewhere on the lower end of middling.
