Originally Posted By oc_dean Yeah ... that "squeaky clean" family stuff. Something a bit on the ~hip and edgy~ side may be the ticket for GardenTalk. All they ever do is talk, talk talk, talk, talk, talk all they ever do is talk, talk
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Dean, do you have Mickey Mouse wallpaper, bedlinens, and matching towls?
Originally Posted By woody >>But if you read all the articles about GardenWalk, their primary focus is the convention center, and the business folks that will be attending.<< The recent LA Times article cites the general public as the main customers with the visitors as the other group. Quote "City officials envision GardenWalk as a place where local residents and visitors to Disneyland, the Anaheim Convention Center or Angel Stadium can spend a few hours eating or shopping. For hotel proprietors, it is an answer to their guests' fine-dining and shopping needs." There are a few interesting new attractions in this mall like a fitness center and an aquarium. The GardenWalk may actually do better than I thought with the new condo and apartments nearby. It will provide a way for people to walk from the east side to Disneyland. Thus expanding the whole entertainment zone. Maybe it will work.
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster I think it will work. The DL crowd, be it tourist, conventioneer, or local AP'er, they need more options in the shopping and dining arena. Until Downtown Disney seriously expands, other projects will meet the demand and profit from it.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>we have been waiting decades for them to finish the long beach freeway here also. It ends at the 10 fwy and thats it. I thinkt he equipment is still sitting there until Pasadena gives up and lets them run it thru there.<< Actually, it is South Pasadena that has successfully blocked the completion of the 710. Pasadena is kind of ambivalent about it. (If the 710 is built as proposed by CalTrans, it will destroy 1/3 of all private homes in South Pasadena, along with a significant portion of the city's tax base.)
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> With the DTD expansion, the GardenWalk could suffer from too much competition. << I think the area is over-stored, even more so if Downtown Disney is expanded. I think many local residents, because of their sense that the neighborhood around Disneyland is very touristy and congested, will continue to shop elsewhere, while many of the out-of-town visitors -- from other parts of Orange County, or Southern Calif or beyond -- who do make a trek to Anaheim won't stray too far away from, if at all, the properties controlled by the DisCo.
Originally Posted By Phantom >>>we have been waiting decades for them to finish the long beach freeway here also. It ends at the 10 fwy and thats it.<<< >>Actually, it is South Pasadena that has successfully blocked the completion of the 710. Pasadena is kind of ambivalent about it. (If the 710 is built as proposed by CalTrans, it will destroy 1/3 of all private homes in South Pasadena, along with a significant portion of the city's tax base.)<< South Pasadena is a small (pop. 25,000) city for the area. The freeway would be a wide divider right down the middle, destroying lots of architecturally significant places. These neighborhoods get used for filming all of the time. The 710 Long Beach Freeway actually goes past the 10 to Valley Blvd. Ever drive on the 710 southbound in the evening? It is already bumber to bumber crawl. If you were to add in traffic coming southbound from the 210/134 and 110, it would be so slow it would be going backwards.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <I agree that the offerings listed so far are rather run-of-the-mill. I am glad, though, that there's going to be MORE to do in the immediate area for us out of town folk.> As an out of town folk, I doubt very much I'd go there unless there was something there OTHER than stores and restaurants that can be found in any mall anywhere. Some of the things mentioned (aquarium, etc). might make me check it out. But not if it's just standard stores and restaurants. Night spots for convention visitors who feel they're too "adult" for DTD - now that might work.
Originally Posted By bean "There are a few interesting new attractions in this mall like a fitness center and an aquarium." Wasn't this part of the expansion scrapped? Has anyone seen concpet art of the new development. Have they changed it from the most recent one released a few months back that showed the large waterfalls?
Originally Posted By Mothman I think one thing that everyone is over looking is the gigantic Platinum triangle project that is curently underway , just drive up katella to the stadium and you will know what I mean. This project will include over 8,000 new homes, condos, and apartments within walking distance plus the three delux hotels included in the garden walk, crowds shopping shouldn't be a problem
