Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Dagobert it get's even more confusing. For example, Hollywood isn't a city at all, but a district in the City of Los Angeles, yet West Hollywood is an independent city with its own government. Likewise there are numerous well known municipalities like Burbank, Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, Universal City, Long Beach, etc., that, like West Hollywood, are not part of the City of Los Angeles at all, yet everyone who visits them from afar says "I'm going to LA".
Originally Posted By dagobert So Los Angeley County and the City of Los Angeles is not the same? But LA is part of LA County, like Burbank or Malibu? I always thought these are a district of LA. I know this is a very stupid comparism, but I've watched the TV series Baywatch and on the yellow cars it said Los Angeles County. So these Lifeguards aren't technically the lifeguards of the city of LA. I guess I have to look on Wikipedia.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip The "I'm not in L.A." thing seems a rather odd obsession. When I lived in Minnesota it made no difference whether you lived within the city limits of Minneapolis, St. Paul, or one of their many suburbs. You considered yourself a resident of the Twin Cities. Likewise, I go to Dallas to visit my mother and sister, even though neither lives within the Dallas city limits... one lives in Plano and one in Flower Mound. Wanting to be recognized as living in the "OC" rather than Los Angeles appears to reflect Southern Californian's obsession with status that leaves us outsiders rolling our eyes and shaking our heads.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb Would YOU want to be identified as a resident of a place nick named Smell A?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Would YOU want to be identified as a resident of a place nick named Smell A?>> But only a local would be aware of that. The rest of us may have heard of "La La Land" but that is about it.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb >>>So Los Angeles County and the City of Los Angeles is not the same? But LA is part of LA County, like Burbank or Malibu? I always thought these are a district of LA.<<< Yes, Los Angeles County has several cities, municipalities and unincoperated towns within its boundries, including the city of Los Angeles. LA the city, which has several "sub cities", for lack of the correct term, has 7 or 8 million people, the county has 11 or 12 million. My numbers are probably not 100% correct, I haven't lived there in close to 15 years. Malibu is part of LA County but not the city of Los Angeles, which is maybe 30 miles away.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt “So Los Angeley County and the City of Los Angeles is not the same? But LA is part of LA County, like Burbank or Malibu?”” Yes and yes. “I always thought these are a district of LA.” Some are, like Hollywood and South Central, others are not, like Burbank and Malibu, while others are not in Los Angeles County at all, like Anaheim and Laguna Beach. Confusing, isn’t it? “I know this is a very stupid comparism, but I've watched the TV series Baywatch and on the yellow cars it said Los Angeles County. So these Lifeguards aren't technically the lifeguards of the city of LA.” I believe that show was filmed at Will Rogers State Beach, which is in Pacific Palisades. And, yes, that’s in LA County. lol
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "The rest of us may have heard of "La La Land" but that is about it." I don't even live in LA and I find the La La land reference insulting.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb Someone from the twin cities, probably doesn't mind Minneapolis and so might not have any problem with being from there even if that's not strictly accurate, the same may go for Dallas. However, many So Cal residents do not like LA, and would prefer not to be associated with it. It has nothing to do with status so much as distaste for the city. Are we not allowed to have civic pride in our own cities and towns? If that makes me arrogant, fine. I am proud of my little unincoperated coastal town that is NOT Los Angeles.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Although specifying the OC rather than LA wouldn't remove the insult. Most people who use "La La Land" are using it to refer to the entire LA metropolitan area, not any specific city or county.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney >>>Wanting to be recognized as living in the "OC" rather than Los Angeles appears to reflect Southern Californian's obsession with status that leaves us outsiders rolling our eyes and shaking our heads.<<< I would have to disagree. I don't live in So Cal, but Orange County and LA county are two different counties. Why shouldn't people be able to specify in which county they live. I live near Yolo County, but I don't live there so I would never say I did. Same thing. And along this same line, it irritates me that the Angels are now called the LA angels, when they are, in fact, located in Orange County. The Oakland A's are in Oakland so we don't call them the San Francisco A's just because SF is a more easily recognized city name.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Someone from the twin cities, probably doesn't mind Minneapolis and so might not have any problem with being from there even if that's not strictly accurate, the same may go for Dallas. However, many So Cal residents do not like LA, and would prefer not to be associated with it. It has nothing to do with status so much as distaste for the city. Are we not allowed to have civic pride in our own cities and towns? If that makes me arrogant, fine. I am proud of my little unincoperated coastal town that is NOT Los Angeles.>> I guess I can see your point... residents of the Twin Cities have Mary Tyler Moore, you guys have Fred G. Sanford. lol
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Wanting to be recognized as living in the "OC" rather than Los Angeles appears to reflect Southern Californian's obsession with status that leaves us outsiders rolling our eyes and shaking our heads." Well, again, that's people choosing to be ignorant and/or uninformed. Where do these people allow us residents to draw the line then? "It's all one place". Going down the 10 East, it's pretty much community after community until you get to the Palm Springs area. Is Palm Springs part of "L.A." too to the uninformed? I hope not, because it's 125 miles away from the L.A. city limits and about 100 miles from the L.A. County line. Moreover, I was told earlier in this thread that San Diego is part of the L.A. area. That's asinine of course, but why not Tijuana then, too? Or will that person finally recognize a border then? If that one gets recognized, then recognize the many other ones that come before it. L.A., as diverse as it is, is even many cities within itself, and this includes the entire San Fernando Valley, which IS part of the L.A. city limits. Van Nuys, in the Valley, is nothing like San Pedro, which is on the water at the L.A. Harbor/Port, for example, yet they're both the city of L.A. proper. Watts is really just a neighborhood, but it sure ain't Brentwood, which is about 25 miles from Watts and both are within the city of L.A. AND, I doubt anyone is obessesed about it, except for possibly being obssessed with getting out.
Originally Posted By hopemax This will really upset SPP, when driving from AZ to DL, after driving through the emptiness between Blythe and Indio, yes we did think of Palm Springs as "Yay, we're in the outskirts of LA!" "Actual" LA started when we passed the Target in Moreno Valley, because that's when the traffic would start getting bad.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I can see locals wanting to specify what part of the area they live in when talking to other locals. Folks in the Twin Cities would often specify "I live in Eden Prairie" or "I live in Roseville" when talking to other locals. On the other hand, we would certainly not be offended by a tourist saying "I'm going to Minneapolis to visit the Mall of America" even though the mall is located in Bloomington, not Minneapolis.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "On the other hand, we would certainly not be offended by a tourist saying "I'm going to Minneapolis to visit the Mall of America" even though the mall is located in Bloomington, not Minneapolis." No one is "offended" when people get it wrong, it's when others willfully denigrate it with terms such as "La-la Land" and insist on assuming that a resident of Inglewood is the same as one from Mission Viejo and that their attitudes, mores and lifestyles are all onein the same, especially one it is pointed out rather plainly that isn't so.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Same could be said of many cities. London consists of 32 boroughs with many towns/cities in it and various neighbourhoods covering over 400 sq miles with 7m residents (11m people in the city) Westminster and Kensington have very little in common with Brixton, Croydon or Harlesdon, but they are all ok being called Londoners. But I suppose over 2000 years of history of being distinct areas doesn't bother them as much as the young conurbations of So Cal. It is funny ,whether it is SF, Oakland, Sausilito, Vallejo, or Richmond, we were all the Bay Area.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Up here in Oregon, we like to lump ALL Californians into one category called the "Crazy Drivers" group. "Oh my god, did you see that guy cut me off!? Oh wait, it's Californian plates."
