Originally Posted By Donny TMICHAEL people who know me know that I am friends with many gay couples and I have an Uncle Jim and aunt Ray who are coming out to Orlando to spoil my kids. If you look at my posts in World events you will see I am a supporter of gay Marriage (going against my church) and have no problem with small hold handing and give kisses in public? When I went to gay days at Disneyland I saw a few situations no child should have to see from a gay or straight couple. I have notice that some posters like make assumptions about conservatives and then blindly attack hatefully here those people should not make fun of the blind hatred pointed their way. In fact they should applaud the guy who flies over WDW with the banners and yes OC_dean you are an idiot.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: The most important principle in Life is Love. When we lose sight of that we are just totally lost.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: By the way, blackratchet, duckling, you sound like one of the more fair minded souls around. It would be ever so nice to meet you if possible. Many hugs to you.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Donny, STFU. When you "post" to "blackratchet", you're likely posting to yourself as a sock puppet, because "blackratchet"'s one and only post was the one in tis thread and the screen name was created yesterday. This was just more homophobic garbage from you. If you're so damned concerned about inappropriate behavior in the parks, then omit any mention of gays and just address ALL people in your post. It would still be another stupid, moronic post from you, but it wouldn't be the personal attack on every gay that attends the parks that you've done instead. That it seems you've created another sock puppet to agree with you just makes this even worse. Go away.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Donny, can't you see how this statement... "Disney parks were mostly designed with the families in mind. with that said I have no problem with Gay Days as long as they are respectful of....." is offensive to not only someone who is gay, but someone who isn't homophobic? You are not only inferring that gays are something other than a "normal" family but that WDW was not designed for gays, rather it was designed for "normal" families. And worst of all, you say you don't have a problem with them being around, as long as they don't do anything that would offend you or your "normal" family while at WDW. Obviously, if anyone was acting offensive in a public place it would be annoying to deal with, especially in front of kids, but you are specifically singling out gays unnecessarily. And if you were truly accepting, it wouldn't even occur to you to do such a thing. If they were having a senior day at WDW, would you say, "I don't mind as long as they don't do anything offensive." ??? Probably not, yet even though you've admitted that you have very rarely ever witnessed anything offensive at a WDW gay day (most likely must less often than any regular day at WDW) it still occurs to you to to note that they better not be offensive to you. This suggests your toleration for gays in general has it's limits. And at the same time, it singles them out. Try replacing "gays" for "blacks" and see if it's easier for you to understand how it could be offensive. "Disney parks were mostly designed with white families in mind. with that said I have no problem with Black Days as long as they are respectful of....."
Originally Posted By Donny "Okay I would be okay with a black event as long as they are respectful" can we agree that any time a group of people organize a meet at a place blacks Christians,gays or tea-partiers they have a responsibly to be respectful of the people around you and in the past Gay Days at Disneyland a number of people have talked about seeing things gay or straight they wish their children would not have to see. Lets not pretend that some gay people are beyond taking things to far.
Originally Posted By Donny CuriousConstance said ""Disney parks were mostly designed with white families in mind. with that said I have no problem with Black Days as long as they are respectful of....." Did you notice you had to add the word white to make it hateful ??? when in my quote from post #1 "Disney World is a place where people save up for to take their families (gay or straight) to share in wholsesome memories." Notice I put "gay or straight families" you are the hateful one there
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Donny, do everyone a huge favor. Absolutely do not ever again make a post about any kind of social issues. Whether it's politics, gays, guns, crime, the economy, do NOT post about them. You bring out the worst in yourself and everyone around you. When you limit your posts to Disney-related topics, people don't have any issues with you. And Donny, posting about Gay Days is NOT just a Disney topic but a social issue topic. You suck at those, stay away. So give it a lot of thought. That's a straight line where you're concerned, but I'll leave it alone. If you want a peaceful existence here, and it is possible, just forever stay away from social issues. That's fair to everyone here.
Originally Posted By Donny If you really look at CuriousConstance post 66 we really agree with each other.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Donny, duckling, perhaps if you had created a more general topic about guests in general who display inappropriate behavior at the Disney parks it might have been perceived less threatening to the gay community. Some of us don't know you well enough to properly interpret you and none of us can read your heart. I certainly don't believe in beating up on you or others just because they disagree with me, either. Just be aware that if you ever create a topic like this again that you don't tie it to any particular group who might misunderstand you. Does that sound fair?
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Witches, you are being far too generous. Donny did this deliberately to stir the pot. It's best to just ignore him.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Perhaps you know Donny better than we do, then, because we can only give him the benefit of the doubt until we see more of him in action. It's always better to err on the side of mercy rather than to err on the side of harsh punishment.
Originally Posted By Donny "I certainly don't believe in beating up on you or others just because they disagree with me" That seems to be a rare quality here The attitude is quick lets assume what he thinks and attack.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: I can't deny that I've seen that happen a lot, too. If everyone here is honest, they'll admit they've seen it, as well. Now, Donny, if you had it to do all over again, how would you have gone about creating this topic--or would you have created it at all?
Originally Posted By Donny Yes I know I would. my intention was not for this to turn ugly but to hear if people were going and see what experiences people have had in the past. I know people who say they don't even go to the park when GAY DAYS happen and I am the first to defend it but I also have concerns from a few instances I have seen as well. All in all I am always interested in peoples experiences and opinions
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Well, that sounds fair enough to me. I still wouldn't have tried to tie this topic to the WDW Gay Days event because just look at the reactions you received. There is inappropriate behavior displayed all the time at the parks regardless of any particular event or sexual orientation. In the meantime, I'm sure you know there will always be others who misunderstand you either deliberately or by mistake. As long as you're up for the challenge of dealing with any negative feed back, carry on. I just don't want to see you--or anyone--bullied or mistreated by those who choose to do such a thing. Behavior such as that is just as bad as what you have been accused of doing.
Originally Posted By xrayvision >> I still wouldn't have tried to tie this topic to the WDW Gay Days event because just look at the reactions you received. There is inappropriate behavior displayed all the time at the parks regardless of any particular event or sexual orientation.<< Agreed.