Originally Posted By dshyates See Douglas, the key phrase in the quote you provided is: "organizations that receive state and federal funding" If they recieve taxpayer money they cannot discriminate. They want to be bigoted against me, then don't take my money.
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF Why should I believe you? You're just an anonymous bunch of pixels to me. You've shown you'll twist just about anything, and you can never, never, EVER admit you're wrong about something even when it's glaring in your face. I know it, and everyone else around here knows it.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Why should I believe you? . . You've shown you'll twist just about anything, and you can never, never, EVER admit you're wrong about something even when it's glaring in your face.> Don't believe me - I don't really care. But please stop lying about me.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "I know exactly what I am talking about. Please don't pretend that because you went to law school, you have exclusive knowledge of what lawyers think. I've read plenty that think this decision was wrong." Plenty of people still think women shouldn't vote and blacks should be sitting at the back of the bus. Plenty of people disagreed with Brown v. the Board of Education. Doesn't make them right, doesn't make it the law. You can find anyone to disagree with anythng. You're proof of that. Name one bit of harm gays can do marriage that straights haven't already done.
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF >>But please stop lying about me.<< Stop lying about the crap you post.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Plenty of people still think women shouldn't vote and blacks should be sitting at the back of the bus. Plenty of people disagreed with Brown v. the Board of Education. Doesn't make them right, doesn't make it the law.> No, it doesn't. And neither does the fact that more people here disagree with me make me wrong. <Name one bit of harm gays can do marriage that straights haven't already done.> When did I ever claim that gays could do some harm to marriage that straights haven't already done? The answer is I haven't. But because you can't refute anything I say, you distort it.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Stop lying about the crap you post.> I'm not. You, however, are making personal comments rather than debating the issues. Why? For the same reason SPP distorted what I said - it's all you got.
Originally Posted By barboy ///because it doesn't approve of that class's biological functions and tendencies, something no member of the class can do anything about,// And something no member ***should*** do anything about as well. Anyone involved in a same gender relationship doesn't owe anyone else an explaination learned or biological. Free choice rocks!
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "When did I ever claim that gays could do some harm to marriage that straights haven't already done? The answer is I haven't. But because you can't refute anything I say, you distort it." When did I ever say that you did? It was a direct question. Can you answer it?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "For the same reason SPP distorted what I said - it's all you got." Except the distortion is all in your mind. I was doing no such thing. You're seeing bogeymen at every turn, apparently. As I said earlier, it was a direct question.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <It was a direct question.> In response to what? It certainly doesn't have anything to do with the post you were responding to. <Can you answer it?> What difference does the answer to it make? One's support or opposition to recognizing gay marriage doesn't depend on the answer. Nor does one's understanding of the law. <You're seeing bogeymen at every turn, apparently. As I said earlier, it was a direct question.> I don't think so.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>What difference does the answer to it make?<< All the difference in the world. See, you ask people to be respectful and debate the issues. I asked a very direct question, and you refuse to answer it. I didn't insult you. But I think I did, however, paint you into a corner, and you know it. So, rather than simply answering the question, which might actually cause you to rethink the matter in a new way, you blow it off. That's one way to handle it, I guess.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <I asked a very direct question, and you refuse to answer it.> What are you talking about? I've never refused to answer an honest question.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Sorry, that was supposed to go in the GITMO thread. And you didn't answer it.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Oh my god. Now he's after K2M. "Are you okay?" What kind of crap is that? Notice how there are several people Douglas disagrees with, and he's personally attacked all of them now, simply because he perceives one or two of us have personally insulted his fragile self. Every single one has either "distorted" what he said or lied about him, whatever the hell that means. Dabob, who has taken great pains to debate him, gets it as well now. Who's the common denominator? Douglas. As for this thread, I asked a simple, separate question. He thinks I'm distorting what he said. Douglas, the question has nothing to do with anything you've said here. It's all new. Can you answer it? Name one bit of harm gays can do marriage that straights haven't already done.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <What kind of crap is that?> It's called concern. He berated me in one thread for not answering a question in another that he asked me in a third. <Every single one has either "distorted" what he said or lied about him, whatever the hell that means.> Maybe if you'd figure it out, you'd stop doing it. <Douglas, the question has nothing to do with anything you've said here. It's all new. Can you answer it?> If it's got nothing to do with anything I've said here, why was it asked? Why does it need to be answered?
Originally Posted By X-san ***If it's got nothing to do with anything I've said here, why was it asked? Why does it need to be answered?*** Debating technique. Boring.
