George hits a home run!

Originally Posted By RoadTrip

Home run?

Nah... Dubya hit a single. It was a nice single in that it scored a guy from second base, but it was still just a single.

That's OK though. I liked seeing Bush acting a little more humble and setting a more realistic agenda. No more of that "I've got political capital now and I intend to spend it!"

The events of the past year have forced him to step down off his pedestal. I think it's done him a lot of good.

Given everything I've just said, I thought it was a good speech. I was actually able to listen to the guy for over an hour and that doesn't happen very often.

 

Originally Posted By Perdie

gadzuux-
well said.

 

Originally Posted By cape cod joe

Good to see you posting Trip!
I NEED some of your honest humility.
I DO think of you staightening me out with that rocking chair joke. I just laugh in the middle of a pressure cooked work day. I guess that is exactly the reason why, even with all the enmity from just a certain "few" people this is a happy place.
When's the trip?

 

Originally Posted By Beaumandy

I know I always say this, but the only party pushing any new ideas and is serious about national security is the Republicans.

Cindy Sheehan and Teddy Kennedy are who the Dems are putting up as their mouthpieces.... they are going to win how many Southern states?

Zero.

It's getting boring at this point because the dems are so lame, so worthless, and so angry that they are looking like total idiots to the nation.

Who are they going to run in 2008 that can beat a Rudy or a Gearge Allen or even a McCain??

Nobody.

When the dems CHEER that they blocked social security reform, you know they are beyond worthless.

No ideas from these people....it's amazing.

 

Originally Posted By TomSawyer

Speaking of no new ideas...

 

Originally Posted By Beaumandy

I am amazed Tom theat your party has no ideas even after guys like me bring it up all the time as a way to mock the left.


Bashing Bush didn't work last last election so I don't get how the libs think they are going to win by pushing terrorists rights, raising taxes, and killing babies in the 9th month of pregnancy.

It's almost getting boring because the left is so far out of the ball game.

 

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Originally Posted By Elderp

I like Reagan's speeches better, this speech was just a bucket of pre-arranged garbly gook that meant nothing. Give me Reagan anyday, "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that wall!"

 

Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

As much as it pains me to admit this, Beau does have a point in regards to the Democrats. They have cast themselves once again as the obstructionist party. That's fine as a start, because despite what the Kool Aid sippers wish to have everyone else believe, this administration has made plenty of mistakes, has some questionable ethics, etc. But they DO at some point need to do much more than simply point out where the Bush administration went wrong.

If they're doing that, I'm sure not hearing it.

 

Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

But Beamandy, the fact that you say that Democrats don't have good ideas, doesn't necessarily make President Bush's ideas good ones.

They're just ideas.

And how about addressing some of the points in the State of the Union?

Were you proud of your President?

Or is that like asking the Disney Fanatic if he's proud of Walt Disney?

 

Originally Posted By woody

I felt the speech was good in the first 45 mintues. I started tuning out in the last 20 minutes.

Bush's weakness is his domestic policy. That won't change with the remainder of his term. Perhaps the only difference he makes in domestic policy is getting Roberts and Alito onto the Supreme Court.

His foreign policy is much better. It was strange to see the Supreme Court Justices in the front row when he is justifying his NSA wiretapping. I wonder if the issue will reach the Supreme Court.

Overall, I give the speech a B+.

 

Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder

"It was strange to see the Supreme Court Justices in the front row when he is justifying his NSA wiretapping. I wonder if the issue will reach the Supreme Court."

Bank on it.

 

Originally Posted By gadzuux

>> His foreign policy is much better. <<

By what measure? We are feared and reviled by most of the civilized world. Contrast that with the complete support we had immediately after 9/11.

>> It was strange to see the Supreme Court Justices in the front row when he is justifying his NSA wiretapping. <<

Four of them anyway - including his two appointees. The rest of them took a pass.

 

Originally Posted By woody

"By what measure?"

Canada and Portugal have turned conservative.

Russia and China have agreed to turn in Iran to the UN Security Council.

It is a slow progress since the Iraq invasion, but minds are being changed.

If you're trying to make the case against Bush, he is really turning things around. Don't ignore real progress.

 

Originally Posted By gadzuux

Not every single world event can be attributed to bush.

 

Originally Posted By bboisvert

<<It is a slow progress since the Iraq invasion, but minds are being changed.>>

Their minds are changing alright, against the US and our policies.

The terrorists are on the fast track to success. Lebanon has freely elected a terrorist government with Hesbollah (sic). Palistine has freely elected a terrorist government with Hamas. Iraq has freely elected a secular, fundementalist Islamic government that is more inline with Iran than with any other Iraqi faction.

Good job. By what measure are we winning this war?


2242

 

Originally Posted By woody

30% reduction in soldiers in Iraq.

No attacks in US soil.

"Iraq has freely elected a *secular*, *fundementalist Islamic* government"

A contradiction, I'm sure.

 

Originally Posted By bboisvert

"Iraq has freely elected a *secular*, *fundementalist Islamic* government"


Sorry, should read NON-secular. Thanks for the edit.

 

Originally Posted By gadzuux

So if we have a 100% reduction of troops in iraq, we've won?

If we have an attack on US soil, they've won?

If iraq and iran align, that's democracy?

 

Originally Posted By bboisvert

<<So if we have a 100% reduction of troops in iraq, we've won?>>

We all know that won't happen anytime soon. We've opened 14 military bases there. We're there to stay.

<<If we have an attack on US soil, they've won?>>

Let's hope that never happens.

<<If iraq and iran align, that's democracy?>>

I don't know if it's democracy, but on the face of it, it sure doesn't sound good.