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Originally Posted By mele The question of civil unions vs. marriage is semantics. If conservatives are so pro-civil unions then why aren't they passing laws that allow that? They are fooling themselves into thinking that they want gays to have the rights that civil unions would provide. In the vast majority of people's minds civil unions are the same thing as marriages. It is the legality of any union that is the important thing but gays still aren't allowed them.
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Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<Bottom line: you don't think gays are worthy of marriage. Why? Cos it's wrong to be gay.>> Are polygamist worthy to be married? How about relatives or the guy who yes, wants to marry his frigging owl. Why these examples?? Because they all change the REAL meaning of what marriage is.... just like gay marriage would do. It's not hate, it's common sense that wants to do what's BEST for the greater common good.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<Given his profession, he is skilled at making people believe he cares, but after several years of reading his posts I have a completely different impression than you do.>> Tim, you have personally attacked me many times and I have always let it slide.. have you ever noticed that?
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF ^^^ You personally attack me and others around here with a great deal of your idiotic statements.
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Originally Posted By mele <<Hey... tell me a place where liberlism put into practice has been more successful than conseravtism that Reagan promoted?>> Hey, slavery made this country extremely rich...why not keep it around? Cos it was WRONG. Maybe you're willing to live your life doing the wrong thing in order to win. I'm not. Your views on what America stands for are so twisted. You really do remind me of the people of Nazi Germany. Don't question anything the government does, persecute those who don't feel the way you do. Win, win, win. Wave the flag, persecute. Win, win, win.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Maybe we should give Wyoming, Montana and Utah to those thinking like Beau so they can have their own country and run things the way they like. ;-)
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<Yup, you don't want America to send a message that gay people are acceptable. >> Gay people are fine to most Americans. They just don't want to hear about their persoanl lives and they don't want to MAKE us accept a lifestlye that is flat out rejected by the bible in a country that is 80% Christian. Call it hate all you want. Throw in the words bigot and homophobe for good measure.. you still can't force people to accept a lifestyle that goes agaisnt their moral values. How many times do I have to point out to you that YOU and BlueDevil are the ones in the minority regarding this subject. Oh, go ask a Muslim, you know, the one religion you libs seem to respect what they think of gays. Just be prepared to have your head sawed off.
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Originally Posted By Beaumandy << Two consenting adults is not the same thing as underaged people, adultery, beastiality or incest or the same as murder, stealing or pedophilia. >> Sure it is. You are just drawing the rules to what you think is acceptable.. you must be a hate filled bigot. ( that feels so good to say.. I am just like a lib now! ) Who are you to tell us that it's not OK to marry a 14 year old, or for 5 people to get married or for two sisters to get married. Who are you to make the rules or to .. uh... KEEP THE OLD RULES.
Originally Posted By mele I don't care if I'm in the minority. Just the fact that a larger amount of people are comfortable being bigots it doesn't make it right. Win, win, win.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip We WILL take our country back from the dinosaurs. I can't wait for November.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy << Win, win, win. Wave the flag, persecute. Win, win, win.>> Where is that liberal place again that your liberal ideas have worked mele? If your going to sell us your position you must have a place we can look at as a shining example of liberalism, land of happiness? Africa maybe? China? Iceland? Where?
Originally Posted By mele You are the one who apparently can't see the difference between two consenting adults and bestiality, adultery and pedophilia. That's your flaw, not mine. Doesn't speak very highly of the power of your heterosexual marriage or morality. Yikes. I'm sorry that you can't see the difference between them. That makes you very dangerous.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<We WILL take our country back from the dinosaurs. I can't wait for November>> RoadTrip, I'm in a frisky mood today... I'll bet you $10 grand the GOP keeps both the House and the Senate. If your not up to that, how about the DL passport bet?
