Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "It's not 1972 anymore." So what? As far as Disney is concerned, these are E Tickets attractions, two of the major draws. Whether or not any of the attractions are classified as such or you don't agree is immaterial. Do you think they spend the money to give the Subs a Nemo makeover and then dump money into it now if they didn't? Or that they'd spend money each year on the Christmas theme with Small World? Of course not.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<It's not 1972 anymore.>> Exactly!! Pack Mules, the Monorail, and the Tiki's were also considered "E"s. There is no way people would consider them that today(except maybe SPP).
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Do you think they spend the money to give the Subs a Nemo makeover and then dump money into it now if they didn't? Or that they'd spend money each year on the Christmas theme with Small World? Of course not.>> Which of course explains why three on the list don't even exist anymore. There is nothing sacred about a 40-year-old list of E tickets.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I remember that the Country Bears and the Tiki Room were E tickets too. I certainly don't think charging the highest ticket price for those two attractions would fly with today's audiences.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Redefining the term doesn't change anything. Small World and the Sub are still E tickets.
Originally Posted By berol "Whether or not any of the attractions are classified as such or you don't agree is immaterial." "Not in my world" is the key to what RoadTrip posted. If I'd happily see them bulldoze a ride, it isn't an E Ticket in my world. Anything to the contrary twists RoadTrip's point (which only applies to RT).
Originally Posted By berol "Whether or not any of the attractions are classified as such or you don't agree is immaterial." "Not in my world" is the key to what RoadTrip posted. If I'd happily see them bulldoze a ride, it isn't an E Ticket in my world. Anything to the contrary twists RoadTrip's point (which only applies to RT).
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Simply because someone doesn't like an attraction or has outgrown an attraction doesn't mean it isn't what Disney decided it was. It's hard to come up with any other reason why someone wouldn't think they're an E ticket. Disney is still pumping money into both.
Originally Posted By berol "Simply because someone doesn't like an attraction or has outgrown an attraction doesn't mean it isn't what Disney decided it was." Nobody said anything to the contrary.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Nobody has stated any concrete reason why the attractions aren't E ticket types, either.
Originally Posted By berol It only needs to make sense to RoadTrip since it's his world. I'd guess it's along the lines of "I hate the ride more than spinach. It's a useless patch of dirt to me." That isn't what defines an E Ticket in Disney's world, but Disney's world isn't RT's world.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip When you are talking about attraction closures, does the original Disney designation make ANY DIFFERENCE whatsoever? What makes a difference is the attractions that the greatest number of visitors consider "must do" attractions. And I doubt either Small World or the Nemo Subs fall in that category. Since Indiana Jones opened post-ticket books it was never classified as anything. Does that mean DL could shut it down forever without visitor complaints because it isn't an "E"?
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Nobody has stated any concrete reason why the attractions aren't E ticket types, either." I did in post 24.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Pack Mules, the Monorail, and the Tiki's were also considered "E"s. There is no way people would consider them that today(except maybe SPP).> Attractions did change ticket designations sometimes for various reasons, including loss of popularity. America Sings went from an E to a D, for instance. My guess is that the Tiki Room would be there today too, as would the monorail. iasw, I think, would still be an E. It's grand scale, 15 minutes... If Mr. Toad is a C ticket and it's a 2 1/2 minute FaL dark ride, a 15 minute FaL dark ride just isn't going to have the same designation (academically of course - the tickets ain't coming back). Plus, at Christmas, iasw STILL, 50 years later, has one of the longest lines in the park. And a lot of people trash the Pack Mules without ever having ridden them. I thought they were great. Low-tech, obviously, but that was part of the point. You could make an argument that they were THE most immersive attraction DL ever had. 4 senses out of 5 were totally immersed. Not only did you get the sights and sounds as in the best DL E tickets (in this case, of Nature's Wonderland), but you also got the absolutely authentic FEEL of riding a mule - which if you want to imagine yourself in the Old West is pretty cool - and you even got the authentic smell of them. Of both the mules themselves and what they dropped. That may sound gross to some, but it was most definitely authentic, and absolutely put you in the mindset of "imagine living back then, getting around this way..." And they didn't drop THAT often, so you mostly just smelled the mule. Nature's Wonderland itself (which the Mine Train also traversed) was pretty cool in itself too. Especially the lush, non-desert area without the corny gags, which is mostly what the mules went through. Riding a mule past Cascade Peak and getting spritzed by a waterfall while feeling the unmistakable rhythm of riding on a mule's back? Pretty sweet. They'd never fly today, if only because capacity was negligible. But I'm telling you - for anyone lucky enough to have ridden them back in the day... they were great. You felt a million miles away from the urban world.
Originally Posted By perlster Typical - agendas must be pushed, so the blatant error in the original post isn't even noticed.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Well, several people have indeed responded to the original post, so perhaps you can enlighten us as to the blatant error, and/or the agenda(s).
