Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder >"Nobody has stated any concrete reason why the attractions aren't E ticket types, either." I did in post 24.< I guess I don't see it that way.
Originally Posted By oc_dean The Disney Co. was pretty generous in what they classified an E Ticket. The Flying Saucers were an E when they opened in 1961. Imagine that! Today .. you can sure bet .. if the ticket system were around today ... Luigi's Flying Tires would have had an "E" designation. Around the 2 parks .... Had the ticket system survived to this day .. some rides (some of us tend to give a low rating) .. would have a higher rating. Therefore .. Small World still gets an "E" rating, in many people's "book." No matter how much some of you hate that song, or the whole ride in general - You can give it the lowest rating you want, but .. add the entire picture here .. and it's safe to say - still considered an E.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>I think they should discount admission on a pro rata basis. Each E ticket attraction down is worth $5-10. Subs, Pirates, Small World and Space down? Let's see, a $7.50 per admission is now $63 a head.<< Sounds fair. I payed 92 for my one day in DL ... With: -Snow White breaking down -Indy breaking down all evening -Casey Jr. half broken down -PotC down for refurb -Small World down for refurb -Subs down for refurb -Alice in Wonderland down for refurb A pro-rated fee for the lack of all that sounds logical. It's interesting ... they charge you the same fee .. all year round - whether every ride is working ... or if only half the park was operating!
Originally Posted By oc_dean I can't believe it! I was surprised to hear a train has been broken down .. and sitting backstage since last winter. When is that going to be refurbed? That's why I'm saying ... What gives? Spreading that butter a little too thin across the whole park?
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Maybe there just aren't any rides rated E or D or C or B or A anymore. Just like there are no longer show rooms for surrey's anymore. E tickets passed with the advent of one rate, all attractions back in the 80's. That was 30 years ago. Since the designation was solely to charge more for more complete and "popular" attractions, the philosophy now is that all attractions are "E's" to someone. Why must we keep throwing a lettered judgement when it is now an individual decision and no longer Disney's. If to you the tree house is a must do, then to you that is an "E". Nothing is accomplished by individuals attempting to classify the significance to an attraction because it is different for everyone. Why not just go to the ones we like and stop worrying about what level it is. If you like it, it's an E, if not it's an F. For example, I know so many people that still hold Small World as a must do. That is really what constitutes one as being worth more then the other, isn't it? The replacement for "E" tickets actually was the Fastpass designated attractions. With the new system, not even that tells things the way they are. Why bother! It's something that changed and we really do need to let it go.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I guess to me whether or not something is officially classed as an "E" doesn't make much difference. It is an outdated classification system that hasn't been used in 40 years. What is important to me when considering attraction closures is how many people will be very disappointed to find that it is closed. To me, far more people would be very disappointed by the closure of Haunted Mansion than Small World. Maybe I'm wrong, but something tells me I'm not. (Not counting the seasonal overlays on either attraction.)
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>Why must we keep throwing a lettered judgement when it is now an individual decision and no longer Disney's.<< Because it's engrained into our culture! DUH! <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_ticket">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_ticket</a>
Originally Posted By RoadTrip The Disney Geek culture. I doubt the majority of visitors know much about it (certainly they don't at WDW). Because of DL's history and frequent repeat visitors, there is probably more awareness of it.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>I doubt the majority of visitors know much about it << I got a request for you... What if you ask 10 people you know - who are not major Disney theme park nuts like us ... "Do you know what an E Ticket is?" You never know, you might find yourself surprised. Try it.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Maybe... with the development of the Internet. The first time I went to DL I had no clue... I was about 12 years old and my aunt took care of the tickets. My first visit to WDW (1991) I had no clue either. Disney fan sites didn't really exist (heck... a user-friendly Internet didn't really exist) and I had never read a Disney Guide Book. Most people I know personally who go to Disney Parks tend to be of the Disney Geek variety.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt >>Why must we keep throwing a lettered judgement when it is now an individual decision and no longer Disney's.<< "Because it's engrained into our culture!" For baby boomers maybe, but as RT points out, it's an outmoded way of classifying Disney theme park attractions that has little context in a modern POP theme park.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "So what? As far as Disney is concerned, these are E Tickets attractions, two of the major draws" Cite? "Do you think they spend the money to give the Subs a Nemo makeover and then dump money into it now if they didn't? Or that they'd spend money each year on the Christmas theme with Small World? Of course not." Why wouldn't they? They're spending money on Alice. Is that an E Ticket? Do you really think Disney would be able to charge a E-Ticket price for those rides today? "Nobody has stated any concrete reason why the attractions aren't E ticket types, either." They're only moderately popular? "Today .. you can sure bet .. if the ticket system were around today ... Luigi's Flying Tires would have had an "E" designation." I'd take that bet. Disney would charge for Luigi what they charge for the Racers? Not a chance.
Originally Posted By oc_dean <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://belatednerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/e-ticket.jpg">http://belatednerd.com/wp-cont...cket.jpg</a> Pitting against Jungle Cruise and the 2 year old Submarine Voyage ... I'm wagering - YES!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt There is no way that people would pay the same for Luigi's as RSR or California Screamin'. Nope. No way.
Originally Posted By oc_dean But people were paying for the same for Flying Saucers as Matterhorn, Jungle Cruise, and the Submarine Voyage. go figure. LOL I get what everyone is saying. Sometimes though ... Disney execs are "martians" ... they like throwing a curve ball, most of us humans wouldn't do.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***since the majority of DLR guests are locals, they won't be missing out on that stuff very long. Just a temporary glitch in the Pixie Dust dispenser*** So what? The tickets still cost the same. If you go to a hotel and the room is dirty with a broken television, should the front desk tell you it's just fine because the next time you show up it should be better? Not for nothing, but it's this kind of apologist sentiment that makes these mega-corporations believe they can get away with whatever they want to. And we all suffer for it.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros FWIW, an attraction's ticket level was mainly dictated by the operations and maintenance budget of each attraction. The Subs required a small army of CMs to run, and required major refurbishments every 7 years, so it was an E. The Fantasyland dark rides were typically staffed by 1 or 2 CMs, and required minimal maintenance, so they could be a C. Occasionally, as popularity waned, an attraction was demoted a level, but there are only a handful of instance of that The idea of E tickets being the big must-do attractions is one that was more-or-less created from the guest mindset. Obviously then something big like POTC or HM was added, they wanted to get the idea across of how big is was by making it an E, but that was also due in large part to the expenses associated with the attraction. I don't think many people would consider the DLRR an "E ticket" by pop culture standards, yet it was consistently on the highest level from the very beginning
