Originally Posted By DAR <<How many languages do you speak, DAR?>> I speak one right now, but I would like to learn another someday. All I'm saying is that if you live in a different country you should at least be able to speak the language of that country.
Originally Posted By Mr X Well, AS a foreigner living in another country I can tell you...it's not as easy as you make it out to be. Not to mention that, for kids growing up in a household where the dominant language is other than the national one (and who's parents probably have friends who speak the same language, and their kids, etc...), it's not very easy to pick up. Just saying that it's easy to SAY something like that, but not as simple putting it into practice. And even those who DO manage to learn are often shunned or not given opportunities because perhaps they look different, or speak with an accent...any number of reasons. So there is good precedent to "stay in the community" too, and it's not as simple as black and white for most.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< And even those who DO manage to learn are often shunned or not given opportunities because perhaps they look different, or speak with an accent... >>> ... and ironically, often by the very people who say "they should learn our language."
Originally Posted By DVC_dad <<<Ah yes, invoke Clinton, even though he's not been mentioned, and it somehow makes Gingrich easier to take>>> Exactly! lol Okay sorry you have a point. Let's leave Clinton out of this. Newt, being from MY state, certainly has his moments, but then don't we all? I can't say that I would vote for him, but vs. Hillary I might.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad Uh, in short, Newt was wrong in what he said. I think he meant something a little different. Of course we can't know that, we only know what he actually7 said.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/04/gingrich.spanish/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITI CS/04/04/gingrich.spanish/index.html</a> Gingrich now admits this was "poor word choice" and is doing the rehab for this type of thing- he's been taking spanish. Ay yi yi.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad ROFL !!! You would think with his political experience that he would be a little better at not dropping the ball in this fashion. Guess not.
Originally Posted By onlyme I don't know whether he's a bigot, stupid or both, but I do know that he won't be president. I saw on the news this morning, that if the election were held today, he'd get 2% of the vote. And because these polls usually allow a +/- 3% variable, well, you get it...
Originally Posted By DAR <<Gingrich now admits this was "poor word choice" and is doing the rehab for this type of thing>> And of course this is the new rage going to counseling for saying something offensive.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad I agree that he wouldn't win today, however the polls are many times in far greater error than their +/- variance. This is shown to be the case in the last presidential election.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 The mania for the presidential race has just gotten out of control. Someone pointed out on one of the news shows that at this point before the '92 election (i.e. in March of '91), Bill Clinton was running at a whopping 2% in the polls (trailing "I don't know").
Originally Posted By jmoore1966 <<The mania for the presidential race has just gotten out of control.>> Oh, but but we are only in the 2nd inning. Things have not begun to crank up yet. I didn't think it is possible, but the political gameplaying just keeps getting worse every year. I wonder if it will get better or worse if we finally get someone not named Cliton or Bush in the White House. Then again, that's not a given either...