Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<And I'm not particularly looking forward to the Rocky Horror episode next week. I'm sure it will be well executed, but like the Madonna, Britney Spears, and Lady Gaga episodes, I'm sure that the music will take the focus of the episode's 'plot' and replace any sort of character development.>> I'm sorry you're feeling so cynical, FerretAfros, and I hope you're wrong. I don't personally see the qualitative change that you perceive between Season 1 and Season 2. In my mind, The Rocky Horror Picture Show was all about character development. I love that movie. (And it makes me sad that so many die-hard "fans" make it all about the RHPS "experience" at the expense of the film itself.) I'm cautiously optomistic that "Glee" will use the themes of RHPS to develop its characters.
Originally Posted By EdisYoda I loved the Rocky Horror episode. I think it took character development seriously this time. I also loved that Meat Loaf and Barry Bostwick, two of the original stars of Rocky Horror, made cameo appearances in this episode. Good job I say.
Originally Posted By Rsey103 Oh, I didn't catch the Meatloaf and Barry thing. I knew that was Barry Bostwick but I didn't know he was connected to the film. Still....not my favorite glee episode. I thought the kids were out of character through too much of it. If that had been the first episode I had ever seen, I'm not sure I would continue watching. I missed Coach Biest. I was sure she would be in there.
Originally Posted By magic0214 My expectations were low, but it was a very good show. The plot points came into play a little more, and Emma sang...which I thought was the best song of the night
Originally Posted By lesmisfan yeah i thought emmas and wills sing together was great! she would be a perfect fit as janet if they ever did this on stage or redid the film! Also I am suprised that everyone I talked to today hated the fact that mercedes was frakenfurter. they said they ruined rocky horror by making it a girl, but i thought it was a great move! i knew she was a great singer and performer but she blew me away last night! i think it worked well. they weren't trying to be a recreation which everyone thought, they were paying tribute to it which they did!
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I agree with magic's comment. I was really surprised by how well the episode came out. It seemed like they were able to take a theme that ran the course of the episode, but didn't seem forced like the Madonna, Britney, and Gaga shows. I liked how the progress in the show was done as a series of rehearsals, but they still managed to get the memorable songs in. I also thought it was really funny how Finn said that he had no idea what was going on in the story, since that was my reaction when I saw Rocky Horror. I kept watching because I knew about the reputation, so I figured it would get better and eventually make sense, but it just didn't. Somehow the episode came out better than the movie. As one of my friends pointed out, Glee and Rocky Horror were made to go together because of the out of place songs, bad acting, and leap-of-faith writing. : ) I thought that Mercedes as Frankenfurter was a great way to handle it. It's been a while since she's had a good song, and she pulled off that costume way better than any guy every could. I missed the Meatloaf and Barry Bostwick moments, but I saw their names in the credits at the beginning so I should have been looking harder. The one thing that really bugged me was how long it took for them to cancel the performance. I would be shocked if there was any high school out there that would even halfway consider that show. Even the mildly-sanitized bits they included seemed like they would be cut immedietly if they were in any other show. Also, musicals are almost always in the spring, so it was a little weird that they did it in the fall (and since when are musicals exclusively Glee Club members and random adults? What about the rest of the school), but I guess it was to tie in with Halloween. And it was inappropriate for Sam to be half naked on stage, but it's okay for Will to do it while a student gropes him while she sings the "Touch Me" song? Really?
Originally Posted By x Pirate_Princess x I also missed Meatloaf and Barry Bostwick. Glad I didn't delete it! I loved it. And the Emma/Will song prompted me to get Rocky Horror from Netflix! LOL I thought it was well done, and as someone who loved Rocky Horror in high school (Time Warp was a staple in band!) it kept to the spirit.
Originally Posted By debtee I think this was my fav episode of Glee so far! I did catch Meatloaf and Barry Bostwick and that was very clever how they were incorporated into the show. This show just gets better and better!
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Also, does anybody else think there might be an eating disorder story line coming up? It would be interesting to see how they handle it with a guy (Sam), since it's usually done wiht girls. I'm glad to see that the conflicts are starting to last longer than a single episode again.
Originally Posted By Labuda "I knew that was Barry Bostwick but I didn't know he was connected to the film." Wow... so you've never seen the film? Go watch it at your local midnight showing. It's fun! (And, for the record, he played Brad, the "straight" male lead - i.e., the square.) Now, regarding Barry & Meat Loaf's scene... did nobody pay attention, or am I just more attuned to seeing these guys since I used to be a RHPS cast member down in San Antonio (about 20 years ago - EGADS!)? I get that Barry could be semi-unrecognizable with that shock of white hair, but Meat Loaf looks the same, albeit older. Anyhow, great episode - and I concur that Emma's song was the best. And check out the abs on Will - NICE! As far as the possible eating disorder for Sam, that would be quite interesting to see them deal with. I hope they do it.
Originally Posted By danyoung >Go watch it at your local midnight showing. It's fun!< I can think of very little that would be more horrifying to me than to see RHPS with a group of fans who've seen it 75 times each! No thanks!!!
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 I know this is SUCH the minority view... The audience participation thing is a fun, over-the-top communal experience that I can enjoy every once in a while. But I much prefer to view the movie alone in the darkness of my own living room. Unlike many fans, apparently, for me the film stands up quite nicely on its own merits. I like to hear it. I like to let it soak over me and to feel the emotional reactions it causes. I like to get absorbed in its touching stories of real characters and not regard those characters as cartoon figures.
Originally Posted By Labuda I'm glad you enjoy it for what it is, Heinz. For me, the greatest Rocky Horror experience I had was when I worked a production of it at the Zach Scott Theatre here in Austin a few years ago. I got to do it each and every night and work with an AMAZING cast of actors and just, WOW.. yeah, nothing like a good production of Rocky Horror Show. Especially when Frank is played by the late, great Joe York.
Originally Posted By lesmisfan i loved this episode! i really felt for kurt and im glad he found someone who could inspire him to be brave and stand up to bullies, especailly with the events of the past couple months. Was so suprised to see the outcome when kurt stood up to the bullie! I fell in love with kurts new possible love interest. they would make a cute couple and he is so nice to kurt and its great to see kurt being able to open up to another gay character.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 I loved last night's episode! I'm so glad Kurt finally found somebody who he can relate to. Apparently that actor has now been signed on as a "regular", so we'll see where it goes. The bully kiss was totally shocking for me. That was great that I couldn't see that coming, like a lot of predictable shows. The confrontation between the 3 of them in the stairwell was...unfortunate, but they're teenagers, I don't expect them to know how to handle difficult situations like that. Obviously Kurt felt like he needed help doing it. Oh, and the Will & coach Biest was...also surprising!
Originally Posted By debtee Yes, I was surprised by Will and Coach Beast too. I thought it was touching how he looked out for her. I really liked Kurt's new love interest Blaine. I hope they expand that storyline. My favourite bit of the show was the girls singing a Bon Jovi mash! Brilliant!!!
Originally Posted By Labuda Seriously? Y'all didn't see the bully kiss coming? Wow, I must be super in tune or something, because I was expecting something like that from the get-go this episode as soon as they started focusing on that guy gay-bashing Kurt.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I thought it was a little obvious too. I really wasn't too impressed with this episode, but it did do a nice job of settting up long-term conflicts to be resoved (Kurt/bully, Will/Bieste, sectionals). Hopefully they will have some more story lines that last longer than a single episode again. And what ever happened to using a song as something other than a performance? It seems like it is just a show with random musical numbers thrown in that really don't add anything to the plot at all... And is a show choir really competing against an a capella group? That's like a symphony competing againts a chamber orchestra; yah, they're kind of similar in instrumentation, but they're completely different animals in execution.
