Originally Posted By mele Headaches? From posting on a voluntary message board? I'm not going to fake an opinion just to fit in. I might not read every thread but I'm not going to pretend to agree with people when I don't. I don't understand what hassle there is, we're not co-workers who are forced to be together. I guess I don't understand why you'd post here if you felt like you had to agree with people?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Combating terrorism has EVERYTHING to do with the LEGAL work done by the U.S. intelligence agencies that are primarily responsible for keeping us safe since 2001. I have no reason to believe they are no longer doing their work just because Obama is president.<< Hear hear!
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Why do I visit WE anymore? It's a haven for conservative-hating, god-hating, mormon-hating liberals.*** Note for the record I hadn't even commented here before this rant occured. Though I don't agree, I don't care if someone calls me "god-hating"...but it's interesting that this guy would say such a thing to all the others posting here, none of whom I feel could fairly be accused of such a thing. Just sayin. As for the OT, who cares what Glen Beck or his moronic guests have to say anyway? Personally, watching the right winger noise machine is simple entertainment..nothing more.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< As for the OT, who cares what Glen Beck or his moronic guests have to say anyway? >>> Apparently he's fairly popular in Utah. I wonder why that is?
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< >>Combating terrorism has EVERYTHING to do with the LEGAL work done by the U.S. intelligence agencies that are primarily responsible for keeping us safe since 2001. I have no reason to believe they are no longer doing their work just because Obama is president.<< Hear hear! >>> Double hear hear!. RoadTrip hit it out of the park on this one.
Originally Posted By SuperDry Scheurer is an interesting guy. He's definitely pragmatic in promoting what he believes. He's certainly a subject matter expert when it comes to UBL (bin Laden). I've read all his books and seen him in several interviews. What strikes me about him is that although he's hardcore in his beliefs, he probably often gets mistaken as just another of those neocons, but I think he's far from it. For example, when he talks about the dangers of UBL and how America needs to act in order to protect itself, he really is saying so just because of his beliefs about UBL, and not like the neocons that may agree in general with that but use UBL as a platform to get other things done that they want done (such as invade Iraq). Seeing just the portion of the interview in the link in #1, I can only assume that Scheurer is still very much worried about UBL-sponsored terrorism, and that he said what he said for that reason and for no other reason. But, there seems to be an enormous irony in what he says: He says that he thinks that the only thing that will wake up America and cause them to act is a large weapons attack against the US, and that UBL is the only one capable of pulling off such an attack. The implication is that if UBL doesn't mount such an attack, the US will not react as it should in order to protect itself from terrorism. But, if UBL is the only one potentially capable of such an attack, and he doesn't do so, what exactly and from whom are we not protecting ourselves against?
Originally Posted By DyGDisney >>>Some of the stuff you hear from Beck and others (Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage both come to mind) make you wonder how much they believe what they say on the air and how much is acting. It's as though they're playing a character who's as outrageous as possible.<<< If Glen Beck, Rush and the rest didn't believe what they are saying on FOX, I would hope they didn't say it. They are encouraging hate and violence, and promoting racism, by instilling fear.
Originally Posted By mele <<They are encouraging hate and violence, and promoting racism, by instilling fear.>> All the way to the bank. :-(
Originally Posted By ecdc >>I don't share Josh's extreme view of WE but given the majority of left-leaning posters on WE if you think even slightly to the right you're going to be in for a battle.<< I know it can be tough if you take the minority position on these boards. I mean, we're all here because we like chatting and sharing our opinions, right? We're not here because we're lurkers - that's for sure. So if you take an unpopular position, you're going to have 15 different people telling you why you're wrong. That can be difficult, and I understand that. I really appreciate those thoughtful moderates and conservatives that do stick around. That's a far cry, however, from "god-hating" and "conservative-hating." Josh repeatedly says offensive things like that (apparently under the delusion that he's being polite) and then gets all outraged when people criticize him for it. It's grown tiresome.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Conveniently, it also gives them an "out" and lets them try to have it both ways. Especially when Beck (or his apologists) tries to say "I'm just a comedian." But on air he is sold as a serious pundit who believes what he says. Either man up and take responsibility for what you say, or just be a comedian.<< Perfectly said. Glenn Beck has actually broken down weeping on his show and said, "I'm sorry, I just love my country so much." That doesn't sound like a comedian or an "entertainer" to me (though it was unintentionally hilarious).
Originally Posted By ecdc BTW, the number 1 selling book on Amazon.com is "Glenn Beck's Common Sense: The Case Against an Out-of-Control Government, Inspired by Thomas Paine." I wonder if Beck tells his readers that Thomas Paine was a Deist who brutally critiqued organized religion, the Bible, and modern (in his day) Christianity in "The Age of Reason?" I somehow doubt it - something tells me the Beck crowd wouldn't be too pleased with, oh, I don't know...context and facts.
Originally Posted By ecdc I really can't get enough of this guy. Today Glenn Beck criticized the Senate Judiciary Committee for its "softball" questions lobbed at Sonia Sotomayor. Problem is, there were no questions today. I believe tomorrow and Wednesday (and if they go long, Thursday) is set aside for questioning. Oh, good times. <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/13/glenn-beck-slams-softball_n_231088.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...088.html</a>
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>I really can't get enough of this guy.<< If this is him sober, can you imagine the things he came up with when he was on the sauce?
