Originally Posted By Mr X ***Olbermann was accusing President Bush of doing something he hadn't*** See, you can't just say this without offering details. It's meaningless. Do you have some quotes or evidence to back this up?
Originally Posted By Mr X I did. You posted two links to rant and rave right winger cites who dislike what Olbermann had to say without proving him wrong at all. So stop lying.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <You posted two links to rant and rave right winger cites who dislike what Olbermann had to say without proving him wrong at all.> The point of the links was to show that Olbermann used over the top rhetoric when accusing President Bush. In a subsequent post, I explained why Mr Olbermann's accusation was wrong. <So stop lying.> I'm not, as any reasonable person who reads the thread will see.
Originally Posted By DAR <<***Olbermann was accusing President Bush of doing something he hadn't*** See, you can't just say this without offering details. It's meaningless. Do you have some quotes or evidence to back this up?>> I would imagine every Countdown from March 31, 2003 when it premiered until January 20, 2009.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***The point of the links was to show that Olbermann used over the top rhetoric when accusing President Bush.*** That very well might have been your "point" (and I wouldn't even argue with you that he uses over the top rhetoric, just like all the other blowhards), but that wasn't what was asked of you. <Kindly offer an example (or two, or three) of the kind of "concentration camp" extremism that we are talking about here.> THAT'S what was asked. And your links indicated nothing of the sort. ***In a subsequent post, I explained why Mr Olbermann's accusation was wrong.*** No, you didn't. You made a general claim without any explanation or supporting evidence. As usual.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh I believe my links and explanation answered the questions, and I reject your assertions.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***I believe my links and explanation answered the questions*** There were no "explanations" by you. None whatsoever. And your links did not answer the questions. ***I reject your assertions*** And thus you're left only with some lame debating technique for a retort. As usual.
Originally Posted By Mr X That doesn't even make any sense. And no, it's not "according to me". It's a matter of fact. You're really not even very good at debating, people tear your arguments and techniques apart constantly. Must be frustrating for you.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <It's a matter of fact.> No, it's an opinion. <You're really not even very good at debating, people tear your arguments and techniques apart constantly.> Here we go again. If you can't or won't try to follow my arguments, just let it go. Personal attacks don't add anything. <Must be frustrating for you.> It wouldn't be so bad if their was merit to their comments, but there isn't. Some people are just jerks.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***<It's a matter of fact.> No, it's an opinion.*** No, it really is a matter of fact. Go back and re-read. ***Personal attacks don't add anything.*** What personal attack? You don't believe it's a fact that people tear your arguments apart constantly? Go back and re-read. You'll get it someday. Perhaps you might even want to change your approach. ***Some people are just jerks*** That much is certain.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Yes. Some people are insistent that their opinions are facts, and their perceptions are reality, when they're not.
Originally Posted By Mr X If you are referring to me, my opinions are just that. But what happened on this thread had nothing to do with my opinion, and everything to do with you avoiding the facts. As for "perception = reality", that's always true. I don't deny it. But perhaps you should step back a bit from "ideology purgatory" and realize that the ideas you guys have been promoting are none too popular these days, and with good reason. Enough with the lame "it was the Democrat's fault" already. Nobody cares. Give some ideas for the future, and perhaps people will listen (I did read what you wrote about health care, and I THANK you for your reply...I'm still digesting and researching it but I WILL reply).........
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Enough with the lame "it was the Democrat's fault" already.> If certain posters would stop trying to blame the GOP for everything, I wouldn't need to point out the facts. <Nobody cares.> I'm not speaking to Nobody, and you don't speak for everybody.
