Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <And this whole thread could've been a discussion about Cheney's appropriateness or inappropriateness of criticizing Obama less than 100 days in office.> Yes, it could've. But neither Chris nor I are at fault for it not happening.
Originally Posted By Chris in Atlanta OH MY GOD ! This is AWESOME! Do you guys know how long I've waited for someone to say "personal attacks against other posters are wrong" ??? You guys have run me out on a rail, twice. No hard feelings. I was overly sensitive. I have to sift thru attack after attack on Doug to get to anything interesting. Anyone who is not liberal in their views, oh wait what was it in this very thread? Oh yes, "let's ignore" was the phrase... Wait let me post this real fast.
Originally Posted By Chris in Atlanta Doug, you did make it personal in #2, but we ALL should chill with the personal attacks.
Originally Posted By Chris in Atlanta Okay my taskbar is blocking my view. I must reboot. Maybe it's only me, Doug, and Mr X that ever make it personal.
Originally Posted By piperlynne Color me amused. Doug is right in this aspect: Continuing to harp on the fact that he disagreed with ecdc assessment of Cheney with a personal attack on ecdc is counterproductive to any meaningful discussion on the topic of Cheney. And Chris or Dad or Pongo (what ARE you sticking with anyway????LOL) We all can get personal. Its the continuing to display personal attack behavior that derails actual discussion. Doug's been completely silent throughout this thread after the first page, yet everyone continued to fight him. He said he'd bow out, which gave us a chance to discuss, but the remaining posters seized on the opportunity to continue to discuss that instead of the topic. (and Doug, it doesn't mean I think you never derail topics by making things personal - just don't want you to use this as a "I never derail threads see piper said so" example - but in this case, other than post 2, this topic's derailment is not your fault. It "COULD" have been saved.) Alas, it was not to be. But at least I got to be amused again.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <And you're continuing to make it so.> Just pointing out that your #21 was untrue. Back on topic, Cheney can't be unaware of the fact that his approval ratings were even lower than Bush's. It's not that surprising he'd lash out.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Oh, even more on topic, from an article that talks about Obama possibly being open to prosecutions on this matter - better led by the Justice Dept. than by Congress (which I agree with). <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30325495" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30325495</a> Relevant to this thread: "In the interview, Cheney said "I've now formally asked the CIA to take steps to declassify those memos so we can lay them out there and the American people have a chance to see what we obtained and what we learned and how good the intelligence was, as well as to see this debate over the legal opinions." But a senior intelligence official tells NBC News "The Agency has received no such request from the former Vice President." So was Cheney lying? Or just blowing smoke? Saying "if only you knew, you'd see I was right?" but knowing full well that this will not see the light of day?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Just pointing out that your #21 was untrue.> But it wasn't. <So was Cheney lying? Or just blowing smoke?> Or is the "senior intelligence official" misinformed?
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <<Just pointing out that your #21 was untrue.>> <But it wasn't.> Yes, it was. You said neither Chris nor you were at fault for this thread derailing. But you made it about personality and derailed it at post TWO. You can't derail a thread faster than that. <So was Cheney lying? Or just blowing smoke?> <Or is the "senior intelligence official" misinformed?> Any of the three are possible.
Originally Posted By DVC_Pongo >>>But at least I got to be amused again. <<< LOL! Uh, I would like to take back what I said about posters who are not Liberal in their views getting attacked. Everyone gets attacked now and then. Sorry. You know what is truly bad. I have a photo of me and my oldest son with Dick Cheney. I used to show it to people now and then. It still hangs in my "study" but I don't show it to anyone anymore. I catch too much heck over it. :*(
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <You said neither Chris nor you were at fault for this thread derailing.> No, I said neither Chris nor I were at fault for discussion not being about appropriateness or inappropriateness of VP Cheney criticizing Obama less than 100 days in office.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <I don't show it to anyone anymore.> I think you will again someday, after all the accusations made against the VP have been aired out, and found to be naught.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <<You said neither Chris nor you were at fault for this thread derailing.>> <No, I said neither Chris nor I were at fault for discussion not being about appropriateness or inappropriateness of VP Cheney criticizing Obama less than 100 days in office.> In other words, for it not being about the actual topic. In other words, for being derailed. This may be a new low in semantics.
Originally Posted By piperlynne Holy Derailment Batman!!! LOL Has ANYONE on this thread been on topic? Taking into account all the posts?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan No kidding! ecdc actually meant to talk about Big Thunder BBQ and derailed the topic itself in post 1!
