Originally Posted By oc_dean ""Oh c'mon - you're not a disney newbie. Golden dreams is a film attraction at DCA, inside the reproduction of the palace of fine arts, hosted by whoopi goldberg in the role of 'califia'. It's topic is that california is a unique place that has been shaped by immigrants with determination and pluck to make a new life for themselves.""......... .........And like any other film-based attraction that Disney does ... gets boring after just a few viewings ... Put it on DVD .. and letterbox it to it's 2.20:1 70mm aspect ratio for those to enjoy .. and put a REAL attraction into that space - THANK YOU!
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy <Oh c'mon - you're not a disney newbie.> True I'm not a Disney newbie by any means, but I'm a DCA "newbie". I've only been to the DL parks one time (I live in Kentucky) and I never heard of this "Golden Dreams" thing until lately around here. So go easy on me, eh? ;-) Thanks for the explanation. I knew what "Seasons of the Vine" was only due to the infinite semi-wisdom of Kar2oonMan and his recommendation of it for my LP Meet trip in 2004 (and only trip to DL as of yet), but I accidentally forgot to seek it out. D'oh! Anyway it's nice to solve another mystery here of what's all the way over there in your folks' California backyard.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>California backyard.<< backyard? Did I see someone say "yard"???? "I'm gonna have me a big house! With a swimming pool! And a YARD! And if necesary I'm gonna hire me a bodyguard, and a lawyer to keep the two you off of my property!! I'm on! I'M ON! Do you hear that? I'M ON!" <---- oc_dean flips out - film at 11! Looking to see if TDG knows where that's from!!!
Originally Posted By oc_dean OH, I know you're a big, big fan of this .... Hope it comes to you soon! Or you're not that big of a fan! ~
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>(is it the one where she sings "Feelings" on national TV?)<< JACKPOT! Very good TDG!!
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy *PHEW* I've only gotten to see that one one time, when a friend had it on tape for me 11 years ago. Did I just discover a new hidden talent in me? lol
Originally Posted By oc_dean And while we are temporarily off topic ... lets not tell anyone else here ... lets see how well they know their trivia in this particular subject.
Originally Posted By oc_dean btw - TDG, I went through ColumbiaHouse and got the VHS some 5 years ago. But I wouldn't doubt there are DVDs out in regular stores, by now.
Originally Posted By dresswhites i would join the club, but i am ashamed i have never seen the wine or bread movies. i always kind of tear up at the end of Golden dreams. I remember going to a paul pressler info session on DCA in 97. i can't recall if Golden Dreams had already been scaled down already by the point.
Originally Posted By gadzuux After reading about TDG's fondness for a certain family, I've spent some time with them. It's better than expected. Last week the dance contest, and it was a laugh riot.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy *gasp* *gets a bit misty-eyed, welcomes gadzuux to "the good side" with a hearty embrace* Welcome, friend. And if you mean a certain dance contest at RayLand (which I guess you do), I certainly agree with your assessment. That "final number" of the Latin Sizzle was the highlight of the show! lol
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror >>>Hans, you and I are the only people who like 'Golden Dreams' and 'Seasons of the Vine.'<<< I like them both too, but they're two modestly entertaining (though polished) filmed attractions in a park filled with filmed attractions. There's nothing to distinguish them from a point of spectacle, or make them particularly worthy of the time of a Disney Theme Park Guest.
Originally Posted By dresswhites ^^i wouldn't say that. true neither of these films have large special effects, i don't think that disqualifies them as being good disney attractions. walt disney was fascinated with history, i think Golden Dreams does a good job, in relaying the historic moments in California history. is parts of it a litte srypy (spelling?)yes, but alot of disney is that way. some of the films, small world, the tiki room are a little heavy on the smaltz and syrup. there still good attractions. my opinion is a film shouldn't disqualify an attraction as being up to disney standards. i think every attraction tells its story differently. this one relies on film.
Originally Posted By oc_dean It would be different if Golden Dreams served as a post show the way the Norway film serves as a post show to the Maelstrom. Both working as part of one large pavilion. The way many of EPCOT's pavilions work. Another good example is how "The Circle of Life" lends to the overall experience in the Land Pavilion along with "Soarin'" and "Living with the Land" boat ride. What does Golden Dreams have in it's immediate surroundings to support it? A bathroom? An empty building across the way that has so far only served as an arcade for the X-Games? Route 66 with it's cheap carny rides? I too think Golden Dreams is an excellent film .. but there's just not a heck of a lot of things to "accompany" it. Come on! It's entrance .. a reproduction of the Palace of Fine Arts from the Panama-Pacific International Exposition - San Francisco 1915....... An EXPO .. other known as a Worlds Fair. And what do you find at Worlds Fairs? Pavilions. Much like what you find at EPCOT in Future World and World Showcase. And with each PAVILION .... are at least 2 attractions/exhibits that serve to support each other .. to make into one interesting whole or "One" .. to be a draw. Golden Dreams (LOL) ... for as nice as it is .... basically sits ALONE in a sea of tackiness or emptiness surrounding it. The closest thing to it .. is the Grizzly Peek area .. which is nice .. but is not technically part of the area where of the San Francisco district. So poor Golden Dreams .. no matter how good the film may be (I recognize for how good of a production it is) .. is going to remain basically ..... a dud .. because there is nothing interesting immediately surrounding the theater to be of any real draw or serves as some sort of a pavilion to help the loan little sucker. It's a 70mm film presentation. The screen is roughly is roughly 50-55 wide. Pretty no different than a few of the larger auditoriums that sit in nearby DtD's AMC14.
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 "I too think Golden Dreams is an excellent film .. but there's just not a heck of a lot of things to "accompany" it." This is exactly the problem.
