Originally Posted By davewasbaloo doesn't quite work that way as far as Disney is concerned standor. With the current economic climate they are more likely to blame the economy on attendance issues rather than face up to the quality issues.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>At least get the broad's name right ...<<< She is a LADY, despite my nomenclature issues with her. Our characters are kindred spirits! >>I will be back there this year. Take it to the bank (on second thought, don't ... they'll just steal it!)<<< Take me with you?!!! I could use a job.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>They've got airplanes to Tokyo leaving every day of the week. It's really not all that difficult.<<< Such a concept. Also, the concept of having the funds to experience such a venture seem to elude me as well...
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Sadly I have never had a good cast member spieler at WDW full stop - Jungle Cruise, GMR, The Land. It's a real shame. But overall I love the GMR. A little TLC and some tweaking of a Haunted Mansion standard would be great though. And despite it's flaws, the ability to see Casablanca, Singing in the Rain, the Gangster Scene, Mary Poppins and the land of Oz fully realised makes me feel great and deserves some love.<<< Exactly. Even with a substandard CM, the concept and "story" of the attraction make it a very unique and fun one.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Why is everyone complaining? If I don't like a product, I don't buy it. If Disney sees that attendance is continually low then they might wise up and improve the product.<<< Because it's a discussion board. Complaints help make that what it is. And I rarely buy the DHS product...
Originally Posted By leobloom >> When I saw them last (and I thought they were brilliant btw, a real highpoint for WDW) they were in the backlot and started with "trimming up" plants before playing. It made total sense, seems they dropped the conceit with the 6 Flagging of the parks? << If this was the same group, they were performing on the stage in front of the Hat. Dunno if they were trimming plants before the music.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Lol, to me LMA is one of Disney's finest creations in the last 15 years (yes the concept is that old, it opened in Paris 9 years ago, and I must have seen it 40 times or so now and still love it). << I can see that the show requires skill and precision. But I think for me part of the problem is the Ballet Chase that opens the show is the most impressive example of driving in the entire show. Everything after is a little anti-climatic to me. I also think the show suffers from having a weak, hackneyed story about a spy and and bad guys trying to stop him. For me, Indy has the movie factor which is far more entertaining. Anyone know if there's any other park that has two stunt shows?
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Hush your mouth, that is one of the few things I like about DHS/WDSP. Disney used to be about a lot of Edutainment and there is less and less of it. << Living with the Land and SSE are all the edutainment I'll ever need.
Originally Posted By barboy2 ///at least for 12 posts that does not involve : 1/ Tokyo is way better, 2, they could do more if it wasn't for DVC 3/ Mgmt is stupid/// It's too bad that WDW allows such a superheadlining/classic attraction(Great Movie Ride) slip into neglect mode. You just don't see that at TDR since they put on a fine show. If the lousy WDW management would concentrate their efforts on maintaining high show standards in the parks instead of focusing on adulterating its image with timeshares, then we wouldn't have to put up with broken aliens, poor film quality and unenthusiastic ganster cm's. [Thanks for the reminder, vbdad. I wasn't goint to reference the supreme TDR or the adulterating DVC until I read your post.]
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<<<Muppets/Star Tours Restrooms: Very busy, very little detail, except for the water faucets shaped like Gonzo's nose.>> I don't recall ever using these ...>> You went into them three years ago with me, dimwit. Now I'm wondering what else you've forgotten from our little WDW get-together. 8^P
Originally Posted By markymouse I missed our family's day in DHS, because I spent the day at the hotel with a 12 year old with stomach flu and WAY too much Disney Channel. But I came away with a very clear sense. They enjoyed specific attractions. They could tell you about their favorite singer at American Idol or what was different in the stunt show (too cold for the water elements). And they loved Indy. But the overall day felt like a failure. Lots of one hour waits till showtime without enough time to do an attraction but too much time to just stand around - and nothing interesting too kill time ala the fountains or German train at Epcot. Too many mad dashes to get from one show to another all the way across the park. Our family was right behind the last standing room group let into Fantasmic. Say what you will about riding around and around on a dino Dumbo clone, at least it gives you something to do. DHS has some of our favorite attractions at WDW, but the total effect just doesn't quite have it together.
Originally Posted By Christi22222 >>Lots of one hour waits till showtime without enough time to do an attraction but too much time to just stand around - and nothing interesting too kill time ala the fountains or German train at Epcot.<< I would definitely agree with this.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Living with the Land and SSE are all the edutainment I'll ever need.<<< Sigh. UoE... WoM... TLS.... All of those should be on that list....
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Oddly enough, I find DHS very easy and organic to tour... It's small enough to drift around. Meanwhile, EPCOT has to be done a certain way. FW, then WS, then back to FW, of you desire. You can't drift.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 <<Meanwhile, EPCOT has to be done a certain way. FW, then WS, then back to FW, of you desire. You can't drift.>> In the old days, before FastPass, touring EPCOT was easy! We used to just start at one of the FW pavilions, and then make our around to each of them, one at a time. And back then, you could easily spend up to an hour at most of the pavilions - like Journey into Imagination, The Land, or Wonders of Life. After that, it was a tour around World Showcase, dinner, and then Illuminations! (I miss the old days!) Now, with Fast Pass, you have to run over to one attraction to get your Fast Pass, then go to other pavilions while you wait, then run back at FastPass time before starting all over again with another pass. Just seems so much more hectic than in the old days!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ Hmm. For us, even in the 90's, it was never easy. It was one pavilion at a time... Or else we get nothing done. LOL. It would be fun to drift, but then again, maybe EPCOT is supposed to be toured topic by topic.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 <<maybe EPCOT is supposed to be toured topic by topic>> That's what I meant by easy - you could just go one pavilion at a time. Now, you have to get a FastPass at one, then head to another while you wait, then head back to the other for your FastPass time. I'd much rather be able to just go one pavilion at a time.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ I guess. However, we only do that once. Dart into TL to nab some Soarin' FPs, then go do TT, then back to TL. The rest is done with Standby Queues.
