Originally Posted By DlandJB I just think it is sad that we are all excited about gas prices being where they are now. They are still outrageous.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I'm still waiting for this big drop to hit Chicagoland- it hasn't happened yet
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Here is another poll released today from the LA Times and Bloomberg.... <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-poll21sep21" target="_blank">http://www.latimes.com/news/na tionworld/nation/la-na-poll21sep21</a>,0,2149217.story?coll=la-home-headlines >> President Bush's approval rating has reached its highest level since January, helping to boost the Republican Party's image across a range of domestic and national security issues just seven weeks before this year's midterm election, a new Times/Bloomberg poll has found. The survey spotlights a continuing array of Republican vulnerabilities, but it also offers the first evidence in months that the GOP may be gaining momentum before November's battle for control of Congress.<<
Originally Posted By Beaumandy The GOP is not going to lose the House or the Seante. I have said this from day one. People when it comes time to vote ask themselves: Who will keep me safer? Who will secure the border? Who will actually try and WIN the war on terror? Who is closest to my family values? Who will keep my hard earned money in my pocket and not raise my taxes? The GOP is not perfect but people can easily see that their is no reason to vote for a demcorat dutring these times. The democrats simply are not serious.
Originally Posted By DlandJB President Bush's approval rating has reached its highest level since January>>> But it is still at 44%. That is still pretty dismal.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I still think the House has 'some' risk, the Senate does not. I think there are enough disgruntled voters to swing over, IF there was a clear message to voters, which there is not. I am very open minded right now, and the majority of the 6 items on the Dem list are not all that different bottom line than the GOP list, except no one has stepped forward on the Dem side to say how any of that was going to happen with any continuity or conviction. The leadership on the Dem side is just in disarray. Here were are within 2 months of the election and one would expect an all out blitz of certain items, they just don't be able to agree within their own party as to which items these should be. I don't get it as this is one election I believe is there for the taking, yet I feel no one trying to win my vote. Now the GOP has got some serious splits going on right now also, but they are the ones that have to be unseated, so by doing little they will likely maintain the status quo. It's not as if the NDP does not have the $ to be going all out for the next 6 weeks, they just don't seem to have an agreed upon action plan....and I think that will lead to no change... Running against Bush vs. FOR some things they believe in, is not going to get that crossover vote... It's time to stand up and be counted, and while I do not have a crystal ball and for Connecticut - I do believe Lieberman will get enough of the independent vote to keep his seat..because he actually stepped out and said what he was for and against..
Originally Posted By Beaumandy You will also notice that all the big issues being debated are being debated among Republicans while the democrats just sit there saying how much they hate Bush. The border fence and prisoner torture debate come to mind. And yes, Lieberman will win. He's a good man who's only sin is that he wants to win the war in Iraq and he doesn't hate Bush.
Originally Posted By Shooba >>the majority of the 6 items on the Dem list are not all that different bottom line than the GOP list, except no one has stepped forward on the Dem side to say how any of that was going to happen with any continuity or conviction.<< What is on the lists? I know Roadtrip posted the Dems. (Maybe a new thread comparing the two?)
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan It's not as if the NDP does not have the $ to be going all out for the next 6 weeks, they just don't seem to have an agreed upon action plan<< Here in California, we're seeing an ad that shows Arnold cheering for George W. Bush at the 2004 GOP convention. It's supposed to, I guess, make us want to vote for his challenger. "Arnold is for George W. Bush -- are you?" is the tagline. If that's the lame strategy across the nation, Democrats will have little to celebrate this November.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Go to the Democrat website and see what their plan is to WIN the war on terror and prevent attacks from happening. You will look for a long, long time because their is nothing there. The rest of their plan is more social programs that raise taxes.. just like always.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Here in California, we're seeing an ad that shows Arnold cheering for George W. Bush at the 2004 GOP convention. It's supposed to, I guess, make us want to vote for his challenger. "Arnold is for George W. Bush -- are you?" is the tagline. If that's the lame strategy across the nation, Democrats will have little to celebrate this November.< If this is the best they can do...there should be plenty of job openings by mid November on that strategy committee
Originally Posted By Shooba Arnold is a Republican that became governor of a liberal state. Both sides should be looking to him as an example of how to appeal to the electorate.
Originally Posted By jonvn "If that's the lame strategy across the nation, Democrats will have little to celebrate this November." Yep, I have to agree. That ad is cringe-worthy. Have the Democrats NOTHING to contribute? NOTHING to say? Do they stand for anything at all? If they don't make major gains this November, then they've totally thrown away the opportunity. They need to start figuring out what they are for, and not just what they are against.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<If they don't make major gains this November, then they've totally thrown away the opportunity. They need to start figuring out what they are for, and not just what they are against.>> I think that has been said on here about 1000 times because it's true. Thing is... there are no ideas from the demcorats except cut and run, raise taxes, shoot down all anti terror measures. Besides, even if they came out with some huge plan today for the country... why did they wait till the election is only 6 weeks away? Is that the party people want to vote for?
Originally Posted By DlandJB Here in California, we're seeing an ad that shows Arnold cheering for George W. Bush at the 2004 GOP convention. It's supposed to, I guess, make us want to vote for his challenger. "Arnold is for George W. Bush -- are you?" is the tagline. >>>>>>>>> It is a stupid commercial and his opponent is handing Arnold the win on a platter.
Originally Posted By DlandJB Arnold is a Republican that became governor of a liberal state. Both sides should be looking to him as an example of how to appeal to the electorate. >>>>>>> I'm not a fan, but he has successfully engaged the democratic base and is known to compromise. He is a moderate for the most part (I know cmpaley will disagree). When the electorate has risen up to protest something he is proposing, he usually backs down. He will win because his opponent is a jerk and not because the people love him.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy I think a lot of liberals assume that since they hate Bush and his poll numbers are supposedly low, an advertisment showing your opponent hanging out with Bush would seem like a winner. The democrats in California picked a weak opponent and Arnold is going to roll.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN He can roll all he wants. He is still an ugly troll and those of you in CA will have to deal with him. Not us.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Anyone who thinks Bush has anything to do with gas prices has been spending too much time sniffing the fumes. He doesn't get credit when they are low and shouldn't get blamed when they are high. The market dictates oil prices...and your local states and communities who tax gas to hell.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 TDLFAN, venturing into W/E or always been a lurker ? Good to see you here.
