Originally Posted By EighthDwarf I agree - that's the most likely outcome. I can't imagine they will spend so much money and energy Victorianizing the area (Paradise Pier, Beer Garden, Little Mermaid) and they are going to have a Goofy-themed/airplane ride right in the middle. I think we should all be encouraged that Disney is looking at all possibilites before they pull the trigger (or drop the axe) on something. I expect that axe to fall on MM.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney "Dressing it up makes it look better, granted, but dressing up a pig in a beautiful dress is still nothing more than a pig in a dress ." >>And the exact same could be said for Gadget's, which was my original point. Boy these discussions can make one so dizzy...<< I know what you said, I'm simply disagreeing with you! Gadget's coaster feels like it belongs in Toontown to me, MM in the Brave New DCA simply does not, period. Funny thing, if they actually put it IN toontown I can go with that. If you're feeling dizzy, then stay away from Route 66. That place will give you a migraine lol.
Originally Posted By planodisney Everyone keeps debating about how this attraction looks, or how the theme fits in. How about the fact that the ride itself absolutely sucks and shouldnt be in any Disney park. heck, the mad mouse at AK is nothing fantastic but it puts DCA's to shame. They shouldnt spend a dime on that piece of crap.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<Everyone keeps debating about how this attraction looks, or how the theme fits in. How about the fact that the ride itself absolutely sucks and shouldnt be in any Disney park.>> Dude, where you been? MOST of us been saying that the better part of 6 years now . And yeah, where you been, seriously??
Originally Posted By WorldDisney ^^That last question was a real question, where have YOU, planodisney been, haven't seen you aroud . I swear, I wasn't trying to be a smart-you-know-what!
Originally Posted By Brown Monkey If this is going to be staying in its current location, then its pretty disappointing that they couldn't come up with a better theme. I mean, why steal a theme from another land? It looks too much like Condor Flats!!! Maybe they could instead theme it to an very intricately themed mousetrap-like contraption that created many different interactions and fun ripple effects. I mean, weren't inventions like that popular back in the "Victorian" era and found on the piers as an additional "amusement"? They could still place it time specific to that era. Even enclose it, if not partly. I dunno, just an idea...
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster I have never seen a Disney attraction so universally loathed as MM. Even SSL had more fans. Those of us that actually like the park even want it removed. Come on Disney, just get rid of the thing already.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Gadget's coaster feels like it belongs in Toontown to me, MM in the Brave New DCA simply does not, period. Funny thing, if they actually put it IN toontown I can go with that." Fair enough, however I've always wondered why there was a roller coaster in the middle of Toontown. Even though the Goofy beach overlay might not fit within the cohesive A coaster at a seaside pier makes plenty of sense to me. To each his own I guess.
Originally Posted By planodisney WorldDisney, I have just been extremely busy. I have started my own business and it has grown a little too quickly over the last year or so. I still come on now and then, but dont post too often. I will probably be around alot more in the future with all of the interesting news. BTW, you were gone for quite a while yourself. What was up???
Originally Posted By 2001DLFan <<Hans Reinhardt: "Gadget's coaster feels like it belongs in Toontown to me, MM in the Brave New DCA simply does not, period. Funny thing, if they actually put it IN toontown I can go with that." Fair enough, however I've always wondered why there was a roller coaster in the middle of Toontown. Even though the Goofy beach overlay might not fit within the cohesive A coaster at a seaside pier makes plenty of sense to me. To each his own I guess.>> You just have to understand the themeing concept for Toon Town. It’s where the Toon characters live when they aren’t working. Each of the characters had their dream homes built, which resulted in the various whacky concepts there. As for Gadget, she’s the mechanic/inventor from Chip n Dale’s Rescue Rangers. She has the uncanny ability to take discarded and unrelated items, and invent nearly anything with them. So, her building a rollercoaster form said discarded and unrelated items, the theme of the coaster fits very well with the overall conceit of Toontown.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Um, okay. Good grief, I'm surpised there isn't a backstory to explain every popcorn and churro cart at Disneyland.
Originally Posted By jonvn The overuse of backstories is one of the problems they have nowadays in creating things for the park. There is so much effort devoted to it, that the attraction itself ends up not being as appealing as it could be. You have to know this whole shaggy dog story before you can "understand" what you're doing. Just make a ride that's fun to go on. No one cares about back stories.
Originally Posted By Brown Monkey >>Just make a ride that's fun to go on. No one cares about back stories.<< jonvn, were you on the original DCA planning commitee?!?
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I care about Back Stories. That is why DLP has the most amazing Frontierland in the Disney empire, the whole place is tied together with interwoven back stories!
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster In Jon's defense, Pirates of the Caribbean and Haunted Mansion are fun to go on regardless of whatever backstory they may or may not have.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Well true, but I always felt the HM has a great backstory, as does potC. But they both work even better in DLP.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Again, I always felt the back story of Space Mountain was entering a space port from a futuristic city for a ride in Space. Again DLP's original Space Mountain (not Mission 2) was Disney's greatest coaster because it had a very rich back story and awesome execution of that story. I think this has a big impact as Mission 2 is less popular, but the track has not changed. Does that not speak volumes of how important back story actually is?
