Originally Posted By Labuda MPierce - Skellington88 takes lots of liberty with facts. He doens't know this AT ALL. It's just more of the garbage, inflammatory statements he likes to spout.
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn I still like the idea of bumper cars in this circle theater - with moving 3-D images on the screens
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Actually, my sisters and I have heard the same thing about Mr. Rasulo, too--that he hardly ever visits any of the Disney theme parks because he doesn't like them. We're not certain how true this is. But we've heard it so often it makes a coven of witches wonder.
Originally Posted By MPierce Now let me get this straight, I can be a little slow at times. Jay Rasolu, chairman of Walt Disney Parks, and Resorts world wide, doesn't like Disney theme parks. I'm afraid I'm going to have to go have a good cold Genesse Cream Ale, and ponder that one for a while. For some reason that makes absolutely no sense to me.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Are you saying maybe the people who hired him forgot to ponder that thought?
Originally Posted By MPierce ^^^It would seem so. I just find it hard to understand why anyone would promote a person to chairman, if he doesn't like the parks. There just has to be something more to this. Pardon me while I go Ponder some more.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 I don't pretend to know what goes on in Jay's head. But if you judge his like/dislike of Disney theme parks by how much time he spends in them, it would be very easy to come to the conclusion he views them in a low light or, at the very least, they don't appeal to him. The only times he's ever in a park is for a media opp ... that's it. You won't suddenly run into him lunching at DL's Plaza Inn, walking thru DAK's Pangani Forest Explorartion Trail, watching the STars and Motor Cars Parade or just walking the hallways of the Beach Club on a quality control check. You won't see him do the above because he doesn't. Why is anyone's guess. And before anyone goes off acting shocked ... I can tell you firsthand that many Disney execs (past and present) openly mocked their products and guests who would enjoy them. Plenty of people in exec positions at any company you can think of do not enjoy what their company produces. To assume Disney would be any different in that aspect would be to truly reside in Fantasyland.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I just find it hard to understand why anyone would promote a person to chairman, if he doesn't like the parks. >>> You'd do it if you thought he was the best person to Increase Shareholder Value and thought that using standard MBA techniques is the best way to do that at Parks & Resorts.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "I can tell you firsthand that many Disney execs (past and present) openly mocked their products and guests who would enjoy them." Obviously there's the token Harris and Pressler comments, but has anybody else in a high position openly said they don't like what they the parks do? It's one thing to give constructive criticism about how the parks are currently run when explaining future plans, but this doesn't sound like what is going on. Any hints as to who the others may be, and why they were kept in the position long enough to announce that they think the parks are a waste?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<And before anyone goes off acting shocked ... I can tell you firsthand that many Disney execs (past and present) openly mocked their products and guests who would enjoy them.>> I believe it. No matter what else you say about Eisner, I truly believe he loved the parks. I’m not sure you can say that about other Disney execs. Many times the more 'educated and sophisticated' you are, the less likely you are to step foot in a Disney Park. I know (unfortunately) many of the 'la-di-das' at the University mock the Disney Parks as being nothing more than a low-class adventure for rubes.
Originally Posted By kennect I would tend to agree with Spirit...I doubt many of Disney's higher ups are there because of their great love for all things Disney...
Originally Posted By Socrates Any time I read a post that discusses in great detail the personalities or management abilities of a Disney executive, my first thought is "Wow! That poster must really be a high-placed insider to know all that." And then my second thought is... Well, maybe I shouldn't even go there. Socrates "The unexamined life is not worth living."
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Any hints as to who the others may be, and why they were kept in the position long enough to announce that they think the parks are a waste?>> I don't know any execs who have ever said the parks 'are a waste.' But I have known many who feel they are for lower class people, people who can't appreciate true art/entertainment, people who they feel are their intellectual inferiors. Some of them are gone. Some remain. I won't name any names because I don't feel it would serve any constructive purpose not to mention I promised Doobie, who I have much respect for, that I'd play nice on this site. That said, if you have any knowledge of the parks exec structure, take a look at how many of them have been lifers for the company and the division vs. folks who have come from outside the company or non-creative disciplines. It's not a rule, but it will give you a really good guide.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I believe it. No matter what else you say about Eisner, I truly believe he loved the parks. I’m not sure you can say that about other Disney execs.>> He did Trippy, he absolutely did. There was no BS in that. He took a lot of joy in what WDI created on his watch. DLP is just a magnificent example of what was possible under his leadership, as were TDS and DAK. Unfortunately, DCA and DSP and HKDL (which I believe will be a GREAT park in a decade) are also on his legacy. But to say Eisner didn't care about the parks or building them the right way would be a very unfair criticism of the man. <<Many times the more 'educated and sophisticated' you are, the less likely you are to step foot in a Disney Park.>> As someone quite sophisticated and educated, I still have to agree with that in large measure because I've found that with education especially, you often get a snobby, know it all 'tude about things. <<I know (unfortunately) many of the 'la-di-das' at the University mock the Disney Parks as being nothing more than a low-class adventure for rubes. >> I love the finer things in life, believe me. But I'd sooner visit a Disney park than go see opera ... or visit a museum (unless there is something very cool showing) ... etc ... what's sad is that Disney management and consultants have really started believing that their pop culture is really low-brow entertainment for the rubes. Especially at WDW. You can't get away with that 30 miles away from Los Angeles or Paris, but 60 miles from Yeehaw Junction you can!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Any time I read a post that discusses in great detail the personalities or management abilities of a Disney executive, my first thought is "Wow! That poster must really be a high-placed insider to know all that." And then my second thought is... Well, maybe I shouldn't even go there.>> But with a name like Socrates you really should be able to tell who actually knows what they are taking about, oh wise one. Although to be fair, I must admit I always found Aristotle could run circles around any other great thinker. No offense.
Originally Posted By Socrates Thank you, but I have found it best not to pre-judge or jump to conclusions. And I do agree with your opinion on Aristotle. Descartes wasn't half shabby either. Socrates "I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance."
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Woman I work with had been to WDW several times with friends. One January her husband, a real snob, wanted to go to the stamp show in Orlando. She took it as a chance to go too. She'd go to the park, him to the show. One day she talked him into going with her. He didn't like the idea of going, but walking down Main Street, he got a whiff of chocolate chip cookies, and was hooked. After that he became human and enjoyed the Parks. Once you experience it, you don't want to do anything else. My opinion.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> And before anyone goes off acting shocked ... I can tell you firsthand that many Disney execs (past and present) openly mocked their products and guests who would enjoy them. Plenty of people in exec positions at any company you can think of do not enjoy what their company produces. To assume Disney would be any different in that aspect would be to truly reside in Fantasyland. << Now I don't pretend to know how the minds of corporate execs work, but I do know this. I worked for a world wide corp. I also new many of the higher-ups. ( A little pun in that last sentence ). I can assure you that anyone working in a high position within the corp, that displayed this kind of attitude, toward the corp or customers or employees, would be searching for employment else where. Every company has disgruntled managers, and employees, however a man like Mr. Rasolu not liking the parks just seems to be more than I can comprehend.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: That's because the Disney Company has grown so large it's completely out of touch with itself in many areas. Very sad to see. ORGOCH: It sure ain't yer Uncle Walt's place no more!
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>But I have known many (execs) who feel (the parks) are for lower class people, people who can't appreciate true art/entertainment, people who they feel are their intellectual inferiors.<< Is this why WDC continues to offer affordable packages to WDW, and charge higher fees for trailer parking in the Minnie Lot??
