Originally Posted By jmuboy pitapan16 - if you look at google earth, most (all?) of this expansion will be over the valet lot, and the lwan will remian. It will have a more enclosed feeling with the building rising above the lawn, but the lawn should remain.
Originally Posted By DlandDug You are correct, jmuboy. The valet lot was built in the footprint of the extension. The Great Lawn will remain. Aside from anything else, it will make the weddings there a little more cut off from the Paradise Pier backdrop. DVC isn't just for stays at Disney Resorts. They can be used literally all over the world.
Originally Posted By gadzuux >> it will make the weddings there a little more cut off from the Paradise Pier backdrop. << You mean that as a 'good thing', right? Unless your idea of a romantic setting is out behind the orange and green mad-mouse coaster.
Originally Posted By DlandDug Yes, I do feel that neon clad whirligigs detract a bit from the "happily ever after" aspect of a DLR wedding.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>But when you save for 2 years and travel for 20 hours to get to a resort, an All Stars or Hojo's just doesn't seem worth it.<< I understand. In our case Anaheim is either a 2 hour flight or a 16 hour car trip. Staying at a Harbor Blvd motel means we can go more often.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>And sadly, $17,000 is not going to make much difference in getting us a bigger house.<< I guess it depends. Since you live in a very high cost of living region 17K might not seem like much (and a sinking dollar helps you as well). 17K is pretty big chunk of change for me.
Originally Posted By fkurucz I would also add that we have stayed at the DLH (once). While nicer than staying at a Best Western on Harbor, we really didn't feel it was worth it. Unlike at WDW, we didn't really get that "immersion" feeling. We could see Orange County in all its non-glory from our window.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I agree fkurucz. But when you stay in the Breeza Courtyard at the Grand Californian with the Monorail going under your room, then it feels like the full Disney experience. As for $17k, yes there is a big diffence between the UK and US - after all, that's far less than the cost of buying a car.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo But I agree, the DLH is tired. It is nostalgia that maintains it's popularity, I am sure.
Originally Posted By bean "Although that is great news for the hotels (and knowing that DLR can support so many high end rooms), it means that they are effectively removing any chance of expanding the park in that direction. While it is not nessecarily the end of the world, it really limits what the future of the park will be like, especially since they didn't really build the original park with a very compact nature like DL. I know they could always do crazy things like bridges or tunnels across the road, but I just don't see that as a very feasible solution. While this news is good for DLR in the short term, I have to wonder how good it will be for DCA, and therefor the entire resort, in the long run." that piece of property was always planned to be Hotel expansion. i would not worry about DCA due to this small area of property not being used for park expansion. The property will hold quitea few rooms but the structure will be several stories high like the other towers. DCA's sparse look will eventually dissapear. The park was built with several expansion pads within the already built park for future attraction locations. Just think of how Disneyland began filling in areas little by little when new attractions were added. the only significant diference is that DCA will most likely always have wider walkways than disneyland but the park will eventually be close to the size of its popular sister park. DCA also does not need the large backstage area Disneyland requires. DCA shares Disneylands backstage area via a backstage road and tunnel located on the eastern side of the resort behind Hyperion and under the tram, shuttle loading area. this allows DCA to grow out closer to the parks boundaries. Notice how Midway Madness soon to be built main show building has alreadytaken up a pre-determined expansion plot for attraction
Originally Posted By jmuboy Wouldn't it be nice if Mulholland Madness went away with this GCH expansion? That cluncky eyesore is going to be really close to the hotel's new wing.
Originally Posted By gadzuux That would allow them to eliminate the sound wall too - that's every bit as ugly as the coaster itself. Let's hope they do.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher If the expansion of the hotel required so much land -- above and beyond just that grassy field -- it might not be such a bad thing if most of Paradise Pier in general had to be plowed down.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Notice how Midway Madness soon to be built main show building has alreadytaken up a pre-determined expansion plot for attraction" Huh? What do you mean?
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster I think he means the the space being utilized for Midway Mania had always been planned to be used for an attraction.
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster Mulholland Madness and its accompanying soundwall will enter Yesterland soon enough.
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 The only good that could come out of this for the park goers, is the beautification of Paradise Pier. These people literally "own" that view. If there is something they dont want to see, like the current whole lot of ugly that occupies that space, they will complain until it changes. If you think annual passholders are a problem, you know, those people who feel some type of ownership of the park because they have a right to visit for a year, just wait until you see the actions taken by people who literally own part of the property for the next 20 years. Now if they themed the facade to San Fransisco, for a new expansion area, now we're talking. Their view is of the pier, but thier rooms on the upper level fit right in to the themeing.
Originally Posted By gadzuux But if they build the new wing on the exact footprint of the current valet lot, many of those expensive and premium rooms will be literally FEET and INCHES away from 'mulholland madness'. That's madness. They've gotta remove that noisy eyesore. And all of the nearby clutter - korndog kastle, the dino, the route 66 souvenir shop, and maybe even burger invasion - we can only hope.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Maybe, maybe not. It depends on the positioning and design of the buildings. I don't disagree with you, however, that MM is ugly and should ultimately be replaced.
