Originally Posted By Darkbeer >>Based on this, my assumption Darkbeer, is that you were looking at a rate during a period where the hotel’s bookings could justify asking that price. << After looking at the Anaheim Hotel Average price at Trip Advisor, I wnet to the Newport Beach page, NON of the hotels were $500 or more, most were in the low $400 or in the $300 per night. Average rate, has NOTHING to do with the time of year....
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains I stayed at PPH a couple of years ago during AP nights at $79 per night and it seemed like a fair price. My kids always want to try and stay in the park, but aren't willing to give up any extra trips to do so. We (really I mean Me) average 10 trips a year. I don't always take all 4 of my kids - but rather take one and a cousin or like next week I go as a chaperone for a choir event. I drive down for SF area and can usually find a decent hotel for less than $80 per night. If I do bring all 4 we still only pay $99 at the Hampton in Buena Park (free hot breakfast) or $105 for the Holiday Inn Express (Breakfast again) To stay at one of the Park hotels I would have to cut my trips back and it's so not worth missing one day in "My Happy Place"
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I wnet to the Newport Beach page, NON of the hotels were $500 or more, most were in the low $400 or in the $300 per night.>> But I don't want to stay at Newport Beach. I can appreciate that Disney rates are high and on a strictly pragmatic level, overpriced. But you could say (and have said) that Knott's Berry Farm is a great value too, and if you again look at it pragmatically, DL is overpriced too. There are more rides at KBF, and it's what, half the price? But I don't want to go there either (well, I do, but not _nearly_ as much as I want to go to DLR).
Originally Posted By SuzieQ This has got to take all of the suites into consideration. I've tried and tried with various dates, using TripAdvisor's site, to find a price that high on a non-suite, and it simply does not happen. The highest price I've found so far is $570 for a suite with concierge. But that would not make it an AVERAGE of $504. And there may be more rides at Knott's (really?), but it's only a 1/2 day park. We're in and out, having ridden most stuff multiple times, before it's dark!
Originally Posted By trekkeruss ^^That's because KBF doesn't even draw as many visitors as DCA. <<-- Hopes to God this doesn't turn into another one of "those" threads.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss The $504 probably is the average rate, but it's not the median rate. They could have only, say, five different room rates, and the suites would skew the resulting average way up. But if you factor in how many rooms go for the lower rates, you'd get a much better picture on what a typical rate would be.
Originally Posted By believe >>>I'm comparing places like Bellagio at $179. The rooms are indeed luxurious, large picture windows, bedding to die for, and a bathroom I seriously could just live in with a large glassed-in shower and a seperate tub that was huge.<< That's during a slow weekday. Did you try during a busy convention week or during the NBA Allstar game - try tripling the price - if not more.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer I just went to the Las Vegas hotels at Trip Advisor, the Four Season is the most expensive with an average price of $455. Bellagio has an average price of $320.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Here is how TripAdvisor talks about "Average Price" >>TripAdvisor LLC is not a booking agent and does not charge any service fees to users of our site. However, you should be aware that agents who list travel packages with us may not have included all fees and surcharges in their listed prices. Airfares, in particular, are frequently subject to additional fees (many of which are required by law). Examples include the Federal September 11th Security Fee, international departure and arrival taxes and fees, federal excise tax, and other service, handling and miscellaneous fees and surcharges. When you book with one of our partners, please be sure to check their site for a full disclosure of all applicable fees as required by the U.S. Department of Transportation. For your convenience, TripAdvisor LLC calculates an average price for each hotel, which is based on the rates of available rooms obtained from our booking partners. In addition, average hotel prices are updated nightly and displayed in your preferred currency using prevailing conversion rates. Since these converted prices are estimates, please check with the booking site for the exact amount and currency. Furthermore, TripAdvisor LLC makes no guarantees for availability of prices advertised on our site. Listed prices may require a stay of a particular length or have blackout dates, qualifications or restrictions.<<
Originally Posted By Lisann22 Last year my sister and husband on an internet deal stayed at Bellagio Friday to Tuesday for $179 a night in a suite. Deals are out there. This avg rate stuff is garbage. The bottom line is someone doesn't like Disney property and they are writing National Enquirer style headlines (thread titles) to support their opinion. I've never paid more than $179 a night at The Grand and that included not even using AP rates. Are Disney hotels priced higher than normal yet! But it's not a $504 avg.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Even if they are, what the heck does Las Vegas have to do with the rates at DLR? Why not cite hotels in Tokyo, London and Paris too? It's about supply and demand, nothing more. If they rates are too high, no one will stay at DLR... or maybe only rich people will stay there. But if indeed it's all rich folks filling the rooms to DLR's enviable occupancy percentages, who cares what their charging? Disney is not a charity, and "poor people" can stay at those sub $150 places that are a "better value."
Originally Posted By Moon Waffle I think an earlier poster hit the nail on the head in mentioning the amenities that come for free with other hotels. I can shell out $200/night for the Residence Inn a block away. I can walk to the parks easily, get a full-blown (not continental) free breakfast each morning, make use of the full kitchen in the room, use the exercise/pool/court facilities, use the free wi-fi service in my room, park for free, and but my tickets to the park at the front desk. Granted, I may not be able to step outside my room into the park, but I hardly call that one perk worth an extra several hundred $/night at the sacrifice of all that I've just mentioned that comes free at the Residence Inn.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<TripAdvisor LLC calculates an average price for each hotel, which is based on the rates of available rooms obtained from our booking partners>> So if all the less expensive rooms are already booked, it drives the avaerage up, because those prices are not reflected in the average. At least that's how it reads to me. And since the GCH has such high occupancy percentages much of the time, the rooms that remain open are going to be the more expensive ones.
Originally Posted By SuzieQ The the OP's much-hyped, good-deal property, Howard Johnson's is listed on TripAdvisor as having an average rate of $130! We all know it's not necessary to pay that much for that property. I don't know that I've ever seen HoJo's have that high of a rate, yet TA claims that's the AVERAGE!
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "After looking at the Anaheim Hotel Average price at Trip Advisor, I wnet to the Newport Beach page, NON of the hotels were $500 or more, most were in the low $400 or in the $300 per night." And? They either aren't of the same calibre or demand for GC rooms is higher at this time.
Originally Posted By Ursula <>>>I'm comparing places like Bellagio at $179. The rooms are indeed luxurious, large picture windows, bedding to die for, and a bathroom I seriously could just live in with a large glassed-in shower and a seperate tub that was huge.<< That's during a slow weekday. Did you try during a busy convention week or during the NBA Allstar game - try tripling the price - if not more.> I get the casino rate. Regardless, it does make one wonder if the new addition is going to have bigger rooms at the Grand. They are for DVC? Is that right? Then they will be bigger, I'm guessing.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "It's about supply and demand, nothing more." That's exactly right. The more the booked a hotel is for a given night, the more the rates increase.
