Grand Californian average rate is now $504 a night

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    Originally Posted By SuperDry

    <<< The more the booked a hotel is for a given night, the more the rates increase. >>>

    At the risk of repeating what someone else said, it appears that TripAdvisor's "average" price is the average price of its partners for rooms still left for sale, not an average of the rooms that have been sold at the GCH (without respect to whether or not they were sold through a TripAdvisor partner).

    So, this "average" price might be useful for someone trying to book a GCH room at a particular point in time using a TripAdvisor partner, but it's certainly not reflective of what the "average" (whether it be mean, median, or mode) price that is paid by guests to stay at the GCH.
     
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    Originally Posted By SuzieQ

    I checked every Trip Advisor Partner. It said the Average Rate was $504. But I was offered rooms at either $340 (regular room) or $570 (suite with concierge). Nothing inbetween. Those two prices were the only ones offered. So, that still doesn't make a $504 average.
     
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    Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt

    ^^Since room rates fluctuate throughout the year one has to wonder how Trip Advisor calculates their averages. The other thing to note is that the GC's room rates depend on view. Standard city view rooms go for less than standard theme park view rooms, for example.

    I entered a few random dates over at disney.com for the GC standard double city view room rate and here's what I came up with:

    April 26: $437.00
    August 26: $437.00
    Dec 1: $391.00
    Dec 26: $483.00

    So, you see, the prices for the same room can vary throughout the year. Interestingly the GC is already sold out a few high profile holidays, including Memorial Day weekend and New Year's Eve. Clearly the demand for this property is very high.
     
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    Originally Posted By SuzieQ

    Oh, yes. The price fluctuates a lot for the same room. And I'm not at all surprised the hotel is already sold out for some key holidays.

    Typically, the most and least expensive hotels sell out first.
     
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    Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

    I have never paid more than $189 for the Grand Californian. And as wonderful as it is, I can't justify more ... Anaheim is still ... well, Anaheim.

    But last week I spent a few nights at the Hilton Suites Anaheim/Orange for $45 a night thanks to Priceline.com ... the suite was huge with two beds in the bedroom and a sofa bed in the living room ... big table ... HUGE bathroom ... flat screen in bedroom ... free parking ... I dunno why people choose to spend a lot more than they should.

    FWIW, I don't believe PP or DLH are worth much more than $100 a night either.
     
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    Originally Posted By SuzieQ

    Is this the one on The City Drive (or something like that)? I've wondered about that hotel. Unless I'm right across the street, I drive anyways, so I'm interested!
     
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    Originally Posted By SuperDry

    <<< But last week I spent a few nights at the Hilton Suites Anaheim/Orange for $45 a night thanks to Priceline.com ... >>>

    Unless you're using one of several Priceline tricks, you committed to paying $45/night for your room without knowing what property you were staying at. This is a very different proposition from booking a room the normal way.
     
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    Originally Posted By ploeb909

    Wow!! I would NEVER pay $300. a night to stay at any of the 3 Disney Hotels, its silly! UNLESS, it included all of my meals and bevs. for the stay. The highest I have ever paid during peak season(PPH)is $209.00, and that was during the 50th.
     
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    Originally Posted By fkurucz

    We stayed at the DLH once (in 2000, IIRC) I think we paid about $190 a night. I doubt we will do it again.
     
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    Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt

    "FWIW, I don't believe PP or DLH are worth much more than $100 a night either."

    I find it hard to justify the rates that Disney is asking for its hotels other than the economic reality that is supply and demand. With that said, hotels the calibre of DLH and PP in high volume convention/tourist areas like Vegas, San Francisco, Anaheim, Miami, etc., are typically a lot more than $100 per night.
     
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    Originally Posted By SuzieQ

    I agree. $100/night won't even get you in to a flea bag in Anaheim some times.
     
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    Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains

    I think if you are going to use the pools and amenities that only come from the park hotels then it's worth it. My sister stayed at DLH last month because of it's proximity to the park and the monorail, personally I wouldn't want to have to walk through the DtD crowds with tired kids or have to leave DCA to go to DL for the monorail (as they did) when the BWPPI is closer and you get breakfast (contintel or pancakes at Captain Kidds). As much as they charge for the resort hotels couldn't they give you a small continental breakfast too? Even the Desert inn with the indoor pool appealed more to my kids then the DLH but only because the park closed early one of the nights. We just don't go to DL to use the pools and such - we spend 99.9% of our time in the park...as long and the rooms are clean, the noise levels low, and the beds are comfortable we are happy!!
     
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    Originally Posted By retlawfan

    <<$100/night won't even get you in to a flea bag in Anaheim some times.>>

    Try priceline.com

    We usually offer $50 per night for a 3* and get the Hyatt. Cheap rooms ARE out there, if you look in the right places.

    That being said we still usually stay at the Grand one week a year. $500 per night might keep us out though. We've never seen more than about $350.
     
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    Originally Posted By SuzieQ

    I'm not saying you can't find bargains. I'm saying that sometimes the flea bags are well over $100/night.

    I've never had a problem finding an affordable room. But I also know how to find them.

    I've never paid more than $209 at the Grand. I've stayed there 8 times - always with a DTD or theme park view. Max I've paid for DLH is $129 - DTD view. Haven't tried PPH yet.

    I refuse to use Priceline. I will not pay for anything without knowing what I am getting. Just as I was tempted to try it, they made that god-awful Radisson a 3-star! My friends got the Hyatt and had a very bad experience with the staff - and don't forget the outragous parking fee!

    I get to DLR often enough, that I go for the whole experience, not just the parks. So, I take full advantage of the properties when I stay at a nice one.
     
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    Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

    <<Is this the one on The City Drive (or something like that)? I've wondered about that hotel. Unless I'm right across the street, I drive anyways, so I'm interested!>>

    That indeed is the one ... just down the street from Anaheim Stadium and the Block at Orange.

    <<Unless you're using one of several Priceline tricks, you committed to paying $45/night for your room without knowing what property you were staying at. This is a very different proposition from booking a room the normal way.>>

    Absolutely. That's why I would never tell people who have to stay at a specific hotel to use it.

    That said, I was hooked in 2000 when I was staying at the Anaheim Marriott and West Coast Anaheim for $15-20 a night.

    Now, you generally can get a 3-star within a few miles of the park in the $38-55 a night range. Places like the Hyatt, the new Doubletree Suites, the Crowne Plaza ... and in my case, the Hilton Suites.

    When I read posts here by folks who pay double or triple that to stay in the roach motels that line Harbor Blvd it makes me wonder if they do any research at all.

    FWIW, I have been a PL devotee since 1999 and I have saved close to $30,000 (the price of a decent new auto) by using them frequently when traveling.

    Biddingfortravel.com is an excellent resource for anyone who is a PL neophyte.
     
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    Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

    <<I refuse to use Priceline. I will not pay for anything without knowing what I am getting. >>

    PL likely isn't for you, Suzie.

    But I must tell you I have used them hundreds of times (also helped family and friends) and been disappointed in my hotel perhaps 2-3 times ... and that covers the USA, Caribbean and Europe.

    I can't tell you how many times I've been wowed or blown away.

    There's nothing like checking into a great resort like Marriott Desert Springs (in Palm Springs area) and paying $50 a night for the same room the people next to you are paying $450 for.

    <<Just as I was tempted to try it, they made that god-awful Radisson a 3-star!>>

    I can tell you that property doesn't regularly give inventory to PL. I haven't seen it come up in quite a while.

    <<My friends got the Hyatt and had a very bad experience with the staff - and don't forget the outragous parking fee!>>

    I have stayed at the Hyatt at least 7-8 times with PL.com and never had a problem with the staff.

    And they have the best beds in the DLR area too.

    As for parking? Is $13 a day outrageous? I dunno. I live in Florida where you never pay for parking anywhere. But SoCal is different. And I'd certainly rather pay $40 a night plus $13 for parking for a very nice hotel than pay $100 for flea bag that comes with free parking and a free muffin in the morning.

    But everyone's different.
     
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    Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt

    "I've never had a problem finding an affordable room. But I also know how to find them."

    Hey Suzie, you gotta tell me your secret!
     
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    Originally Posted By oc_dean

    hmmm....

    Well now the ultra wealthy can have their very own "watering hole" because they are the only ones who can afford it.
     
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    Originally Posted By SuzieQ

    LOL Hans. The secret is flexibility.
     
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    Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt

    ^^Okay, you sound like my kinda person - always hold out for the good deals!
     

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