Originally Posted By trailsend ssWEDguy ~ that second link where the two pictures fade into each other is awesome. How cool! Thanks for that!! ºOº
Originally Posted By jmuboy I love Epcot, MGM and DAK. But MK is a real let down. It is simply a real bore compared to other MK parks (except HKDL).
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I love Epcot, MGM and DAK. But MK is a real let down. It is simply a real bore compared to other MK parks (except HKDL).< you mean the Pooh Playground doesn;t light a fire under ya ? :-( I still love many aspects of MK-- but I find it sad to be avoiding certain areas of it-- that just shouldn't be the case...
Originally Posted By tonyanton vbdad...I agree completely. For me, what bothers me the most about the MK isn't that Splash Mt. was the last big E-ticket, but rather how a lot of the details have been purposively stripped away...Main Street's unique shops, the Cinema and Penny Arcade, The Walt Disney Story; the keelboats and canoes on the river; the closed Adventureland Veranda; themed merchandise and not using former shops as storage space in AL, Frontierland, and Liberty Square, and the demise of the Diamond Horseshoe. Do I still enjoy the MK? yes Are there still great things about it? yes Does it make me a bit sad in places though? yes
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Main Street's unique shops, the Cinema and Penny Arcade, The Walt Disney Story; the keelboats and canoes on the river; the closed Adventureland Veranda; themed merchandise and not using former shops as storage space in AL, Frontierland, and Liberty Square, and the demise of the Diamond Horseshoe. < I couldn't agree more-- like ripping the soul out of the park and making it ....well a park ( complete with playground ). And the cost to restore this type of thing, less than that to add themed playgrounds to open areas....far less than the Stitch makeover on AE -- etc....the sad fact is I believe these things are gone forever...the current management is tying to convince everyone there is no need for this 'link to the past' -- newer is always better. How much longer for the Dapper Dans / Mayor of Mainstreet / flag retreat ceremonies / Barber Shop -- who knows -- but my guess is enjoy them now...
Originally Posted By fkurucz ^^I think that while DL has also lost so of its "heritage", it has been able to hang on to it better than MK.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Yes, they have not gotten rid of all of it -- you can still see links to the past -- they don;'t get eradicated by Pooh plush / princess dolls and pins
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney "For me, what bothers me the most about the MK isn't that Splash Mt. was the last big E-ticket, but rather how a lot of the details have been purposively stripped away...Main Street's unique shops, the Cinema and Penny Arcade, The Walt Disney Story; the keelboats and canoes on the river; the closed Adventureland Veranda; themed merchandise and not using former shops as storage space in AL, Frontierland, and Liberty Square, and the demise of the Diamond Horseshoe. Do I still enjoy the MK? yes Are there still great things about it? yes Does it make me a bit sad in places though? yes" There are others! YES!!!!!! I knew I wasn't alone. You just summed up my EXACT feelings about WDW's MK! It's all in the details, and so many of them simply have been torn away over the past 5-10 years.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <There are others! YES!!!!!! I knew I wasn't alone. You just summed up my EXACT feelings about WDW's MK! It's all in the details, and so many of them simply have been torn away over the past 5-10 years. < yes, there are many of us here.... the problem is so many first timers just don't know any better and since it is so much better than other theme parks anyway... they don't know what they're missing
Originally Posted By Labuda ssWED - is the link with the .exe down? I just timed out trying to reach that site - wondering if it's just me...
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy Labuda -- I'll have to try that download later today on a higher speed connection to verify. I'll get back to you.
Originally Posted By CMM1 Isn't it enough to know that there is enough variety between DL and WDW MK to make a visit to each different and unique? The idea of which is "best" seems pretty much subjective and unargueable in the end. A couple of months ago I got to visit DLP - and that park is very much different in terms of it's look and feel. A very refreshing and interesting look. So sit back and enjoy the differences
Originally Posted By Blackie Pueblo I understand maybe Disneyland fans love the California park better, but why is there this constant need to put down the Fl park? It's not just constructive criticism, it's flat out insulting of the park sometimes. I'm probably going to get banned for this, but if you hate Disney World so much, why do they feel the need to check out the Disney World section of the message boards? Blackie Pueblo
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy Blackie Pueblo -- Responding to this and agreeing with you -- Check out this posting -- <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/default.asp?WCI=MsgBoard&WCE=T-67528-P-1&Refresh=0927043538" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/de fault.asp?WCI=MsgBoard&WCE=T-67528-P-1&Refresh=0927043538</a>
Originally Posted By danyoung >The idea of which is "best" seems pretty much subjective and unargueable in the end.< Just cuz it's subjective doesn't mean it's unargueable - in fact, it's just the opposite! And Blackie, I think I can answer your question. It seems like some people just hate this park or that park. But after many years of reading and getting to know the people involved, it's usually more of a great love for a park, and a sadness and frustration at seeing the perceived quality going down over a period of years. It's pretty much accepted that Disney does indeed read these online forums at some level. So there's always the hope that they'll see the frustration and make changes. It happened in DL (and who knows how much of that was pushed by us forum fiends!) - and it could happen in Florida as well.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo "but if you hate Disney World so much, why do they feel the need to check out the Disney World section of the message boards?" Please do not tar everyone with the same brush. I do think that the MK is very weak compared to DL or maybe even DLP (though I love Country Bears, Hall of Presidents, Sonny, and Carousel of Progress). And I am not overly amazed with the Studios Park (GMR, TOT, RNRC, Muppetvision 3D, and LMA excepting). But I love the resorts. I love Epcot more than perhaps any other park in the world (well, it's neck and neck with DL). I adore Animal Kingdom (90% of it) and I think the offerings of Downtown Disney are wonderful - Adventurers Club, Comedy Warehouse, HOB, La Nouba, Disneyquest etc. So I really do love WDW. But the Mk is just a small diversion for me. And I think that the experience has been diluted over the years, and that is what makes it the poorer cousin of DL.
Originally Posted By Labuda I'm with dave there - the MK is a nice park, but it's no Disneyland. And, I enjoy the MK each time I visit it - I just also think back to 987 and see tha things aren't quite as clean, CMs quite as helpful, etc.
