Originally Posted By mousermerf So.. This is what WDI's been up to while Uni Creative has been working on Potter.. <a href="http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2010/03/30/disney-imagineering-offers-rare-glimpse-of-new-inventions/" target="_blank">http://www.walletpop.com/blog/...entions/</a> Rehash of the same.. rehash of the same.. bleeding the idea dry.. rehash.. same idea.. rehash.. living characters despite the public's overwhelming "meh" response to them, and rehash of Nemo for umpteenth time. We don't hire dancers who can only do one dance, painters who can one paint one picture, or musicians who can play only one song.. heck we open chastise singers for only being able to sing one good song... but we laud these "designers" and their super secret fortress of solitude for doing the same thing 12 ways for the last 5 years running..
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>As to Disney ... well, let's just say the last decade has largely been a lot of mediocrity, at least in FLA. There have been some nice additions (Soarin, TSMM, EE and MS come to my mind). But none of them raised the bar in any way. Good attractions. Not great. And no aim to be, PR aside. That's WDW of the 21st century.<<< I think that they did AIM to some extent, but with insufficient means to get to their goal, Spirit. When they debuted, E:E and M:S were touted along the PR line you mentioned, yes, but they DID have a great reason to be. M:S is still one of the more realistic and technologically sound Space rides created. It's problem isn't in that. It's the fact that it replaced something else, and is JUST a ride...not a full pavilion like it was planned to be in 1978...in 1986...in 1994, even. Same with E:E...It's a great coaster, can certainly sit up there in the big leagues, but it's problem is uniqueness. Is it THAT revolutionary? Nope. It tries to be, seeing it has a (non working) HUGE AA Yeti, and has a interesting ride configuration, and details galore, but it's aiming for the top without the extra degree or "umph" or WOW factor that so many OTHER Disney projects have had. That's the WDW of the 21st century, to me, at least. Trying to be bigger than they are through SOME additions, mostly PR, and as I know you to say...Recycled Magic.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper davewasbaloo, most of the food, including the strawberry peanut-butter ice cream, is straight out of the books. <<Same with E:E...It's a great coaster, can certainly sit up there in the big leagues, but it's problem is uniqueness. Is it THAT revolutionary? Nope. It tries to be, seeing it has a (non working) HUGE AA Yeti, and has a interesting ride configuration, and details galore, >> Details galore before the top of the mountain.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> To say it is cool that it fits in with the books, that's great. But it is not necessarily traditional (and that is a good thing, a lot of traditional British food is quite boring). << I think they should serve Haggis.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Nah, Skipper. You need to realize where you are. Folks in this here Laughing Place aren't mindless defenders of mousy mediocrity. << I still love that new planter in Tomorrowland no matter what you say.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Nope. It tries to be, seeing it has a (non working) HUGE AA Yeti << What do you mean non working? It's suppose to be "Disco Yeti".
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >Details galore before the top of the mountain.< Exactly, Hokie...Trying on insufficient means. I shoulda specified that...but...the edit feature is missing.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Exactly, Hokie...Trying on insufficient means. I shoulda specified that...but...the edit feature is missing.>> I got ya. Just making sure I point it out, haha. Still, at least they kinda tried on that one, minus a huge engineering blunder, something that grinds my gears.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I know you might disagree, but I don't think it's a engineering issue, but the fact that they ran it without maint. for such a long time. Might be both, as a mater of fact.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper EE, it only worked correctly for a year and a half/two years. Maintenance may have been an issue, but that is some bad engineering if it only lasted that long.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ Right, it's a terrible combo of the two. He should have been designed better, but if that's HIS only flaw, it's all up to Team Di$ney Orlando and their choice$.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>EE, it only worked correctly for a year and a half/two years.<<< Not even. We rode it 5 months after opening (if that) and the Yeti was broken every time. And the smoke effect in the station only worked once out of the three times we rode. One of my major disappointments. EE was what convinced me it was time for a WDW trip
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Not even. We rode it 5 months after opening (if that) and the Yeti was broken every time. And the smoke effect in the station only worked once out of the three times we rode. One of my major disappointments. EE was what convinced me it was time for a WDW trip << This makes me glad that I rode it four or five times during CM previews. My dad didn't go with me, and he's wanted to ride it--but we're not going to spend time or money to go see a headlining attraction whose AA star is in disco-mode.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ See, I have reports telling me it was up and running in 2008 for DAK's 10th. Something is fishy about it.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Your reports come from a Magical place where they believed the "screens" in SSE were going to be turned on and other completely untrue things as well.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Yeah, because you know exactly who I talk to, right? Wrongo. On all accounts.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Your reports come from a Magical place where they believed the "screens" in SSE were going to be turned on and other completely untrue things as well. << Those screens will be turned on in a decade or so when SSE has another refurb.
Originally Posted By mousermerf They aren't "screens" that are electrical and could have wiring so that's a total crock.
Originally Posted By Anatole69 My understanding is the Yeti can't operate without damaging the structure of the ride because it is so powerful it creates stress on the whole thing. The imagineers knew this and they needed more money to do the thing right but Disney was being cheap and they tried to do the best they could and hoped they had figured out how to mitigate against the power of the AA, but it was to no avail. That is my understand of why the Yeti doesn't run anymore. - Anatole
