Originally Posted By mawnck >>This whole thing is like trying to explain atheism to a highly religious person.<< Or like trying to explain capitalism to .... Um, what economic system do you prefer again?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I'm just here to say "The Baldknobbers are not on trial here!" Thank you.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>The Baldknobbers are not on trial here!<< I'd sure like to know why not!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt >>Why are you singling out hotel rates while ignoring how expensive everything else is at Disney's resorts?<< "For me, it's easy to single out hotels because there are so many comparable experiences elsewhere." Right, because there's a national chain of Disneyland Hotels where every property replicates the original in Anaheim in every detail. "Given that most people spend relatively little time of the vacation awake in their hotel rooms (3-4 hours per day at most), it also seems like a pretty logical place to cut costs, without having a huge impact on the quality of your vacation." You can also cut costs by not going to DLR at all and doing something else - or just stay at home. Why is it so baffling that a person (another Disney fan in fact) would shell out money for a Disney hotel while you happily shell out money for other things that Disney offers, most of which are equally as frivolous and overpriced. "I don't really agree that the hotel prices are on par with the admission. A park hopper for a few days is still less expensive than a one night stay at the DLH." I never meant to imply that they are on a par with hotel rates. What I'm saying is that the admission prices are over inflated just like the hotel rates are. Bottom line is it isn't fair to single out hotel patrons and call them suckers when most of Disney's offerings are expensive or overpriced. "I don't think it's worth it, but It really isn't my business if people are willing to pay for it and are happy doing so." That's exactly what I think when I see people trading pins or buying the pictures they sell at the exit of attractions. lol
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<or buying the pictures they sell at the exit of attractions.>> Yes... THAT! I've vowed not to purchase any photos this year on our Disney Cruise. How many photos of Ann and I at a table in the Royal Palace do we need? The ones we already have sit in a drawer. Somewhere. I could probably find them if I really looked for them.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>Right, because there's a national chain of Disneyland Hotels where every property replicates the original in Anaheim in every detail.<< Of course there isn't. However, I think a Hilton is much more similar to the Disneyland Hotel than any other non-Disney theme park in the world is to Disneyland. Other than some framed photos on the walls in public spaces, there's relatively little theming to that hotel (or PPH) that make it special. With the CGH, or the Moderates and Deluxes at WDW, there's a lot more there that a traditional hotel can't compare with; but to me, the DLH and PPH aren't all that different from any other hotel of similar quality (with the pools being the possible exception). In order to afford vacations, we must make some compromises. Some people don't visit as often, some people would rather go elsewhere; for a large number, it seems that staying at a non-Disney hotel is a pretty good way to save some money while still having a nice vacation to Disney parks.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 As someone who has happily stayed on Harbor to save money, and happily stayed at the DLH or GCH as well, I'll just say it one more time. There's no wrong answer here. To each his own. Do what makes your happy and don't insist your choice is the only correct one. Etc. Etc. Etc.
Originally Posted By berol The 3 most overused words in the English language are greed, hero, and baldknobbers.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Oh, and full disclosure of MY biggest price beef: paying 3 bucks for a 20 ounce bottle of coke or water that really IS absolutely identical to what's outside the gate at a third of the price. I'll pay big bucks for admission. i'll (sometimes) pay extra to stay on property. I'll pay more for the convenience of having a rental car. But hell if I'll pay 3 bucks for a plastic bottle of coke. (And don't do the math about how many coke bottles go into one night at the GCH... not everything is logical or zero-sum on a vacation.)
Originally Posted By RoadTrip The WORST is buying a good bottle of wine at a Disney restaurant! Of course that is pretty much the same any any restaurant.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "The ones we already have sit in a drawer. Somewhere." LOL. "Other than some framed photos on the walls in public spaces, there's relatively little theming to that hotel (or PPH) that make it special." PPH yes, but the DLH? Seriously? <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://whatsupwiththemouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/disneyland-hotel-pools-and-fun-968x450-01.jpg">http://whatsupwiththemouse.com...0-01.jpg</a> <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://dlr1.wdpromedia.com/media/dlr_nextgen/MediaPlayer/hotels/dlh/rooms/disneyland-hotel-rooms-968x450-02.jpg">http://dlr1.wdpromedia.com/med...0-02.jpg</a> The value may be debatable, but as the images show, there's no denying that it's uniquely Disney and a very nice hotel property.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "In order to afford vacations, we must make some compromises. Some people don't visit as often, some people would rather go elsewhere; for a large number, it seems that staying at a non-Disney hotel is a pretty good way to save some money while still having a nice vacation to Disney parks." Who can disagree with this? It's a reasonable point to make about something as frivolous as a trip to Disneyland. However, there are a couple of people here (not you) attempting to apply some kind of moral judgement regarding personal cost decisions people make about their Disney vacations.
Originally Posted By Tikiduck Personally, I still see the park admission prices as being relatively reasonable. Also, there simply is no other Disneyland, and considering the entertainment bang for your buck, I fail to see it as frivolous spending. Even meals in the park aren't that unreasonable, and you have the option of bringing your own food and drink. The hotel situation is another matter entirely. Of course I recognize your right to stay anywhere you want, despite the costs.
Originally Posted By tashajilek For someone like you Hans, who only goes once every few years for a couple of days makes sense to splurge. I'm sure there's not too many people who go to the parks a few times a year and always stay at a Deluxe Disney hotel.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "Personally, I still see the park admission prices as being relatively reasonable." And obviously some feel the same about the hotels. I don't know why you have such a hard time understanding that. "This whole thing is like trying to explain atheism to a highly religious person." Indeed.
Originally Posted By Mr X "I don't swim, and have exactly zero interest in lying around on a beach like some stranded cetacean" lmao!
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "Personally, I still see the park admission prices as being relatively reasonable." Why do you get to have a person opinion on the value of something, but others can't have one?
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Now I can't stop staring at those DLH photos. MUST GET BACK THERE!!!
Originally Posted By Tikiduck "Why do you get to have a person opinion on the value of something, but others can't have one?" Because I absolutely forbid it!
