Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<To be fair to Disney, tons of fans wanted the ELP back at Disneyland for years now so im sure fan demand played a part in the decision. They could have been scared of another Light Magic situation.>> Disney isn't doing anything for the fans (please don't tell Zenia I said so ... she'll hurt me!) unless there's something in it for them. In this case bringing the MSEP back to DL is a cheap way to offer something for the 55th instead of say ... bringing in a brand new MSEP ... not even DreamLights but a plussed new special version. This is a cheap move that will please some fans who don't care about much but their own nostalgia and desire to relive past experiences instead of trying something new.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Spirit...I'm interested in see what you highlight from the '85 Birnbaum guide...>> I'll try and get to some thoughts over the weekend. I was gonna this afternoon, but between a little work that needed my attention, a long discussion on another less magical Disney forum that (naturally) wound up being an attack on yours truly, and calls from friends on the west coast about MJ's tragic death, it didn't happen. And I have no energy right now. But I will get back to it. <<I have a copy as well (from an '85 trip) and it's amazing to see how much has changed in terms of shopping and dining (including at the resorts). >> It's almost like Walt Disney World has become Bizarro Dizney World when I look back at 1985 vs. now. Or even 1989 vs. now, which is what I try and do to show that even with expansion came quality for years, not decreases in it! <<I know my family did a character breakfast at the Empress Lilly in late '83, the only other restaurant I can think of would be Chef Mickey's, also at the Village, though that may have been a bit later.>> Empress Lilly was seasonal and I'm trying to figure out when it started for certain. But the only year-round place to dine with the characters at breakfast was The Trophy Room at The Golf Resort (later Disney Inn, now Shades of Green). Not an easy place to recall. And I admit I never dined there.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip << <<People don't visit WDW to see new timeshares. You can't seriously suggest otherwise.>> <<I do.>> No. I think what you mean is DVCers travel to WDW to use their points at new resorts. I don't think the typical onsite or off-site guest decides at 3 p.m. 'hey kids, let's leave EPCOT so we can go trudge around the Beach Club Villas'.>> We are in agreement. My "I do" was not an indication that I thought Joe Tourist went to WDW to check out the new DVC resorts. It was merely a statement that I PERSONALLY go to WDW to check out the new DVC resorts. If you want to expand that to DVC'ers in general I'm fine with that!! When all is said and done I don't think we disagree as much as it might appear on the surface.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> (wearing my Don Johnson Miami Vice wardrobe as I type that!) << Did you fail to shave this morning also. <<Did they improve the Hall of Presidents by adding George Bush? No they did not. ;-)>> >> Oh, now that's fighting words ... where's old man Pierce? Oh yeah, starting to open a Houston branch of the Palin 2012 campaign! ;-) << Why would I want to fight over that. As I've said both publicly, and privately to you, I think that Bush is one of the worst Presidents this Nation has ever seen. Mainly for different reasons than your's, but the opinion is the same. The thing that bothers me is the folks that perpetuate this hatred raher than give this country a chance to heal. You know, Change We Can Believe In. That's not in reference to this particular joke as I don't think it was made in a malicious way. I honestly don't know who I will be voting for in 2012. Somebody prettier than Sarah might come along by then. I doubt it though.
Originally Posted By PinkyTuscadero im lookin for the fast lane topic around here. i herd disney has a fast lane for the people who bring a kid and hate to wait in a line. i need some help.
Originally Posted By PinkyTuscadero why am i getting a cold shulder around here? please tell me why. Bonnie
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Pinky...come back when you're out of 4th grade, and we'll talk. Same for Mork!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<When all is said and done I don't think we disagree as much as it might appear on the surface.>> I agree. You just aren't as good a communicator as I am!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> (wearing my Don Johnson Miami Vice wardrobe as I type that!) << <<Did you fail to shave this morning also.>> I don't remember what day that was. So the answer is 'likely'! But I'm pretty much on vacation until late July! <<Did they improve the Hall of Presidents by adding George Bush? No they did not. ;-)>> >> Oh, now that's fighting words ... where's old man Pierce? Oh yeah, starting to open a Houston branch of the Palin 2012 campaign! ;-) << <<Why would I want to fight over that. As I've said both publicly, and privately to you, I think that Bush is one of the worst Presidents this Nation has ever seen. Mainly for different reasons than your's, but the opinion is the same.>> Yes, you have. And our mutual opinion is the correct one! The righteous one. And the patriotic one! But the comment was made in jest ... I just like to poke the Texan (don't like the way that sounds ... ) <<The thing that bothers me is the folks that perpetuate this hatred raher than give this country a chance to heal. You know, Change We Can Believe In.>> I really want CHANGE (although I'd rather dollars ... or GOLD!) ... I just don't see enough of it ... but I'm sure gonna give the guy a chance. The last guy had eight years and there are some mentally ill folks who would have liked to have seen him have another eight! <<That's not in reference to this particular joke as I don't think it was made in a malicious way.>> You think right (in more ways than one!) <<I honestly don't know who I will be voting for in 2012. Somebody prettier than Sarah might come along by then. I doubt it though.>> I don't think she'll be running. I think she's gonna have a big time TV gig first ... and have heard that from some people in the industry. And if I'm her, I take that career change in a heartbeat.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 So ... I'm wondering whether to let this thread sit for a while ... like until my magical WDW vacation is over ...
Originally Posted By MPierce >> But the comment was made in jest ... I just like to poke the Texan (don't like the way that sounds ... ) << Might I suggest the word prod. >> I really want CHANGE (although I'd rather dollars ... or GOLD!) ... << Japanese Bearer Bonds. >> I don't think she'll be running. I think she's gonna have a big time TV gig first ... and have heard that from some people in the industry. And if I'm her, I take that career change in a heartbeat. << Not another talk show host. While I agree it would be a more honorable career change. When do you leave, and have you rented your fully enclosed air conditioned ECV yet?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 I leave on Friday (possibly Thursday). Spent time packing stuff today, very early for me ... while watching Wimbledon and fighting with fanbois (sure you don't know nothing bout that!) No tricked out ECV yet ... but there's still time. I want one with its own mini-fridge and pin lanyards!
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt <<No tricked out ECV yet ... but there's still time. I want one with its own mini-fridge and pin lanyards!>> just borrow the Pope Mobile!
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<just borrow the Pope Mobile!>> Shame on you... demoting the Spirit from God to Pope.
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt >>Shame on you... demoting the Spirit from God to Pope.<< can I play Mother Teresa in the movie?
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I leave on Friday (possibly Thursday). Spent time packing stuff today, very early for me ... while watching Wimbledon and fighting with fanbois (sure you don't know nothing bout that!) << Yes I know. I caught up with one of your post when you had to break away to catch the outcome of a match. I have a bunch more questions for you since our discussion a couple of days ago. I'll wait until you get back from your trip, and make the post about that before I contact you. Enjoy yourself, and if you die from heat stroke can I have all your old WDW guide maps?
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 <<can I play Mother Teresa in the movie?>> That would really require acting!!!
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt hope you have a magical time Spirit, really!! Don't forget your sunglasses & look out for vomit! Don't miss Off Kilter..only real men can pull off wearing skirts! MPierce, I am off the Gunn & Bond clans!
