Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 What gets me is the hypocrisy of it all. While under Bush, everything was "a-ok" with them. Anybody dared to question authority was labeled "un-American". Now...the shoe is on the other foot, and they're doing the exact things they complained about, all in the guise of "taking their country back". Talk about un-American...
Originally Posted By ecdc <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/02/fracking/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/...dex.html</a> Now the government wants to interfere with these people's right to have their drinking water light on fire, courtesy of private industry. Freakin' gov'mint.
Originally Posted By tiggertoo As long as they drape yourself in American flags, Tea Party conservatives think they can spew whatever hate-filled drivel they like and still be considered the standard bearers of the Constitution. It's as delusional as it is insulting to the Framers and disrespectful to the flag.
Originally Posted By alexbook >>Not to cause an argument but 2+2 does equal 5 for extremely large values of 2.<<
Originally Posted By Donny I have to say I joined the Tea Party When President Obama started that public health care,then did told Arizona it has no right to defend itself,but mostly I am tired ,tired,tired of both sides being controlled by big cooperations and not the voter.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Donny, you should look a little deeper into who controls the Tea Party behind the scenes, at least the larger, more powerful factions like Dick Armey's. If you don't like corporate control, you won't like what you find.
Originally Posted By Mr X Bingo. The entire "movement" has been orchestrated by big business in order to get the REPUBLICANS back in power, for the benefit of the very corporate controllers you claim to be so against. Feel like a sucker yet?
Originally Posted By hopemax And also Koch Industries (billionaires Charles and David Koch). If you've ever had concerns about George Soros, and his so-called "liberal agenda" these guys should make your hair stand up on end. I saw one quote somewhere, "at least Soros' involvement is transparent."
Originally Posted By Mr X Point is though, you're being used. The founders, and those you might elect, don't really believe the rhetoric they're spouting. It's just a means to whip up your enthusiasm and get them into office. One possible exception would be Rand Paul. Like him or not, he does seem to be every bit the ideologue his Dad is, and will be unlikely to change his tune for anyone once elected (I still hope he's not, though). The others? Don't count on it. They'll start sucking up to big business and ignoring YOU as soon as they get into their new cushy offices. THAT, you can count on.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Not to cause an argument but 2+2 does equal 5 for extremely large values of 2.<< Damnit. Time to find a new analogy in a field I'm more familiar with....
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "I have to say I joined the Tea Party When President Obama started that public health care,then did told Arizona it has no right to defend itself,but mostly I am tired ,tired,tired of both sides being controlled by big cooperations and not the voter." I'm really beginning to think people shouldn't be allowed to vote unless they can pass a basic Civics test. Donny, framing the immigration issue as Arizona not being allowed to defend itself is a mistaken belief at best, and more likely though, a deliberately fraudulent, misleading and dishonest way of doing it. It's a FEDERAL ISSUE as it involves a border between two countries. Arizona HAS NO RIGHT to take action. That isn't Obama talking, IT'S THE LAW. No amount of Sheriff Joe Blowhole or any Tea party gangster saying otherwise will make it true.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Because it's the values I believe in not the founders.<< Do you believe, as does the Constitution, that a President that has been duly elected by the Electoral College IS the President? For four years? And gets to govern as such? Do you believe, as every Conservative once did, that we should pray FOR the President, that he will have the wisdom to guide and lead our country through whatever happens? Do you owe any "allegiance ... to the republic for which it stands? One nation ... INDIVISIBLE?" Cause I don't think you and the rest of the Tea Partiers do, regardless of who is or isn't pulling the strings behind the scenes. I think you're fair weather patriots, Raiders fans with a new and dirtier team to cheer on, and don't give a tinker's damn what happens to this country as long as you can open some whoop-ass on those Americans you consider "unworthy." And as soon as some "trustworthy" media blowhard tells you that the Muslim/Mexican/Gay/Socialist/Martian invasion is imminent and they're coming for you, you and all the "independent" Tea Partiers will be using your copies of the Constitution as kindling for Christian Kristallnacht, all the while feeling yourselves persecuted because some of us think you're acting kind of like Nazis. That's why I'll NEVER join the Tea Party, even if I am in total agreement with some of your positions. Because I THINK YOU ARE LOUSY AMERICANS.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Holy cow. Post 56 was a thing of beauty. mawnck, you summed up exactly why the whole tea party thing drives me bonkers. Thank you!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt >>Point is though, you're being used.<< I think Nancy Pelosi said it best: "It's not really a grassroots movement. It's astroturf by some of the wealthiest people in America to keep the focus on tax cuts for the rich instead of for the great middle class."
Originally Posted By Mr X Can I quote some or all of that Maw?...attributed to "something a friend said" of course.
