Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<Or the Monsters attraction popping up in the future of his beloeved TDL, and in tomorrowland no less.>> And planoDisney (hello btw, looong time ), WHAT gave you the notion that I liked Monster's popping up in TDL anymore I like the fact that Nemo is in TL??? Guess what, I don't . Matter of fact, show me ONE post where I said having Monsters is a GREAT idea in TL...one. As for Nemo I don't necessarily like it either but the subs themselves stopped being about the future probably pass 1971 and I said this before, if its a GREAT ride, I really don't care lol. They could put a roller coaster through Main Street if it was good enough. Nemo sounds like its going to be great, so no biggie. We're also talking about a ride that would probably just sit there another 10 years if Nemo didn't come along. But DCA is a whoooole different story. You already have, let's see, 3, will be 4 attractions in one year, an entire LAND with it's OWN separate attractions and an entire parade, ALL PIXAR!!! On top of that, there are more rumors with more Pixar crap. Meanwhile, DL, the park that SHOULD have this stuff has a total of 1 Pixar attraction, 2 when Nemo comes out. In fact, DCA has more Pixar related attractions than any other Disney theme park and there is no end in site!!! That's mainly my point in all of this. Not only have they turned DCA into a self indentity nightmare, they have gone waaay overboard on Pixar. My 'beloved' (without the extra e though ) TDL has only 1 Pixar attraction, Buzz, 2 after Monsters premiere. Matter of fact, all the theme parks minus DCA has only 1-2 attractions tops. But not so with this park and you know why? Because it is so characterless, that they have to infuse an entire set of popular characters just to get people to pay attention to it. Those OTHER parks already had that, no biggie. But DCA was so fantasyless from the start, they had to find something to add some excitement to it, so apparently they sent Pixar to invade. It's just sad, six years on and not one rumor in sight about an attraction exploring the West during the early 1800's or building a Chinatown or creating a 3D movie about riding through the streets of San Francisco. Instead, they are probably looking for space where they can squeeze in a small parade for the characters of Ratatouille this summer. This park should've never been given that awful theme and every decision they make only proves that.
Originally Posted By bean well lets see #1 crush coaster replacing MM. - crush coaster is not even in discussion for DCA. At the moment MM is being debated wether it goes or stays. It is considered an eyesore by WDI but others want it to stay. The idea being considered is to add a more vintage coaster but completely enclose it within a victorian themed building to match the rest of the victorian look being considered for the pier #2 additional viewing area for WWOC - sort of. the area being considered is actually the spot where the Jumping Jelley fish are located. The area is perfectly center within Zephyr and Orange stinger and has enough room to create multi tier viewing area. Jumping Jelley fih would be removed completely. no plans on relocation #3 move Zephyr to replace orange stinger. - Orange stinger is going nowhere. It is a very popular attraction. The only consideration being talked about is to remove the orange structure and make the structure more victorian. The Zephyr is being considered for relocation. several areas are being considered for its new location. #4 Parachute drop to replace Maliboomer have to check on this but it was talked about once. It was also considered for removal the area used for another attraction. #5 possible relocation of jumping jelley fish - why would you remove the jumping jelley fish and its surrounding elements only to move it south a few feet? Besides that is pretty much the area where rustworthy is and possible zephyr relocation. The jelley fish at this moment are being considered to be completely removed. #6 World of color lagoon spectacular - hey this person got one right #7 extension of grizzley park replaces condor flats. - still being discussed, would be mostly cosmetic changes #8 Midway Mania - another one thats correct although the area he/she greyed out is much bigger than the actual building area. Also the attraction also has another show building in front of the coaster. #9 Carland - not exactly. The land also has more than one attraction. It would have one "e" ticket and several "c" and "d" tickets. Also most of the land would not have a "CARS" overlay. only the section where the attraction based to the movie would be. The land would have a more "car" theming as in car culture. #10 animatronics on grizzley. - just a thought nothing concrete. There are actually plans for other attractions in the pier area including the possibility of the golden dreams theatre removal. The demolition of Pizza oom mow mow and Burger invason
Originally Posted By bean Plans have been changing constantly. nothing is final until things get approved and construction starts
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 ^^Exactly! It seems the "plans" for DCA change with the breeze. Everything is rumor at this point until construction starts. It's fun to hear the rumors, but there are so many cooks stirring the pot, it's hard to know what is really going to happen (short of a couple things).
Originally Posted By disneysnout So bean, can you clear something up for me and all the other fans...The Million Dollar Question "Is Disney getting Rid of the California Theme" ?
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> "Is Disney getting Rid of the California Theme" ? << They should. Sorry, but no city, county, state, province or nation in the world is so "all that" that a theme park -- at least a truly major, truly Disney-ized one -- should be based on it. However, I did read a few days ago that the appetite for new hotels in Las Vegas -- to name one geographic entity -- remains insatiable and huge. As many hotel rooms that have been and are being built there, people somehow keep filling them up. Perhaps "Disney's California Adventure" should have been "Disney's Vegas Adventure?"
Originally Posted By MadAboutMickey They said that they were taking out the Condor Flats area. If this is true, would that mean that Soarin' would be gone? HOW COULD THEY DO THAT?
Originally Posted By Dabob2 No, they'd keep soarin'. The idea being floated was just to extend the lush theming of the GRR area (which everyone seems to like) into what is now Condor Flats.
Originally Posted By Pinocchio85 I love Condor Flats. It would be a shame to lose all the desert and aviation themeing for just more of the same stuff. Condor Flats offers something different and extending Grizzly would take something unique away from the park.
Originally Posted By bean "So bean, can you clear something up for me and all the other fans...The Million Dollar Question "Is Disney getting Rid of the California Theme" ?" No the california theme is not going anywhere. The overal theme of the park will be California. but the attractions being discussed wil fit the theming of the land they are occupying. Plans at the moment like i mentioned have been changing constantly. there are so many possibilites for the park and everyone has diferent opinions on what to start with. the latest plans call for route 66 to be removed completely since Carland will have a "car theme (an no i do not mean the whole land is based on the movie) just cars in general. MM would most likely stay (at least until the end of the decade) but later replaced with another enclosed coaster. (turtle talk has not been discussed) The pier theming would basically wrap around the whole bay with golde dreams dissapearing and replaced with more victorian structures and a new attraction based on a classic Disney movie. the zephyr possibly relocated (again nothing for sure) the orange stinger orange shell removed and also rethemed. Pizza oom mow mow and burger Invasion demolished and replaced by a heavily themed beer garden with the zephyr somewhere in tha location. like Dabob2 mentioned Soarin is going no-where. the idea being throw around is to just rethemed the area to a mountain airfield with more lush landscaping. Other ideas being discussed is to reroute the parade route for a while and of course the bay show. For the bay show the area used by the jumping jelley fish would be tiered as well as a complete re-configuration of the bay amphitheatre. The bay at the moment would start getting drain january 2008. One thng everyone must realize is that the park still has plenty of room to grow and although some of the attractions being considered now are movie based, there will still be future attractions that are not in other parts of land that could be used for expansion.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney ^^I think they are throwing over the beer garden idea just to win over Dark beer. He will never say one bad thing about that park ever again .
Originally Posted By bean thats funny. i am sure for those that have no idea what a beer garden could look like, you could do some google searches
Originally Posted By bean here is an indoor beer garden with victorian architecture. <a href="http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www2.jsonline.com/desk/histwis/images/palmbig.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www2.jsonline.com/desk/histwis/archive2.asp&h=253&w=325&sz=138&hl=en&start=6&tbnid=li2NVL98x6JgpM:&tbnh=107&tbnw=137&prev=/images" target="_blank">http://images.google.com/imgre s?imgurl=http://www2.jsonline.com/desk/histwis/images/palmbig.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www2.jsonline.com/desk/histwis/archive2.asp&h=253&w=325&sz=138&hl=en&start=6&tbnid=li2NVL98x6JgpM:&tbnh=107&tbnw=137&prev=/images</a>%3Fq%3Dvictorian%2Bbeer%2Bgardens%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG now of course there are many kinds of beer gardens some outdoors with lush landscaping and fountains others within elaborate buildings. Other beer gardens are just large long buildings with rows of tables used for beer festivals. Just keep in mind the area is getting a victorian theme.
Originally Posted By Pinocchio85 Even if they aren't getting rid of the California theme I think they are dumbing it down. They are planning on removing things that are very important to California. Like the desert airfield, San Francisco and the surf culture. It sounds like they are going to go overboard with the Victorian and wilderness themeing. There needs to be variety in the park. I like how the Pier a mix of both old and new. It shouldn’t be completely old. It sounds like they want to make DCA another DL with lots of characters and old themes. The Victorian themeing sounds like it has a lot of similarities to Main Street and New Orleans Square. I like how they took a different approach with DCA and did something different. The parks should be different. I am very excited for Carland though. If done right, it can be a great tribute to California's love affair with cars and not just another Pixar tie in. Hopefully, they change the name to Route 66 though. Since the references to Route 66 must be removed in the small Route 66 area, I hope they expand San Francisco rather than give it a movie theme (my guess is the Little Mermaid).
Originally Posted By jmuboy The picture in post 35 is exactly what I was envisioning. Would be a GREAT addition and populr with AP's I am sure. I hope the Hyperion gets an indoor queue and a new show along the way. Aladdin is getting a little old, in my opinion at least.
Originally Posted By bean a little off topic but Alladin will be around for awhile. No plans to change it till about 2011-2012. OOf course if something interesting gets suggested and entertainment set up a budget things could change.
Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct Is the NEMO show at Animal Kingdom a hit? If so, perhaps that could be a replacemnet?
