Originally Posted By MPierce >> Save money, TDO. Just reopen the AC. You have no idea how many people you will win back with that. << Em, and Lee for sure.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Agreed- then convert BET into the general club and you've got it made << You mean you're asking TDO to go through a thought process? Then come to a conclusion that makes sense? I think it would be more likely they would make it Meet 'n Greet Island, than a nighttime venue for adults. Bringing back the Adventures Club, as well as a general purpose, all around have a goodtime club, is long overdue, and is a much needed, wonderful entertainment attraction for the Downtown Disney complex.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> And funnily enough, I thought the thread title had something to do with me going to Universal within the month...(hopefully) ;-) << I thought it was about another Eagles reunion tour.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> While that is amazing, the fact that TDO may be admitting they're wrong is even more amazing. << I guess they figured everybody else already knew that, so they might as well fess up.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Whatever they do to PI, I would hope they require either a current Disney Hotel card or Theme Park admission to gain access. In it's later years PI seemed to be primarily a place for WDW CM to get obnoxiously drunk. I originally really enjoyed PI. In the later years I was almost scared to be there after 11 PM. << I think they need folks outside of the Park guest to make PI truly profitable. I would like to see them gate it off though, like it was before, and make it strictly 21 or older after 6 PM. With lots of security.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Sorry, but that's bull. When I was down on my College Program, I never saw any CM getting obnoxiously drunk at PI, and I was there a lot. << That's because you were to drunk to recognize everybody else was drunk too Skipper!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> See how easy this is?! We should run Disney... << Give yourself a raise EE.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Sure, but to put a new club on the spot of the older, better one, one that actually had a story, a following, and a bit of History to it, is an insult, IMHO. Sure, they'd be admitting they were wrong, but instead of fixing the problem, they only give you a half assed version of the club back. Kind of like what they did with JII versions 2 and 3.... << I so agree. Bring back the one, and only, one of a kind, true Disney at it's best classic Adventurers Club!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> My sister-in-law is a former WDW CM, and she thought that was pretty true on certain nights (if I recall correctly, they were offered reduced admission on some nights). But I can't say that I KNOW from personal experience. I will change "WDW CM" to "young adults". Fair enough? << That's a good idea Trippy because most WDW CM's couldn't afford to get hammered there unless they got a sizeable raise.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Someone better get Lee on the phone. << He's probably to busy organizing a pep rally for outside of the AC for tonight.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> The Adventurer's Club had a group of hard-core fans, but was it that popular overall? Most people (including me) just don't "get it" the first visit. Even after figuring it out, I had to be in a certain mood to go there. You have to devote a fair amount of time there to really appreciate the experience. I also can't imagine it was very profitable for Disney. It was more a "sit and watch" place than a "sit and drink" place. Combine that with the relatively large cast required, and it had to be a money-loser for Disney. << It was unique, and had a cult like status. I believe Lee can verify that it was a money maker. Disney killed the AC off for what ever perveted reason. All they had to do was let the guest know it was there. Like they did when it first opened up. Now tell me who wouldn't be up for a place that celebrates New Years every night. Especially after you're Pixie Dusted out, and need a break from the family entertainment for a good night of adult entertainment with unique club offerings.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Every reliable source I've ever seen has said AC was indeed in the black. How profitable it actually was is up for debate, but it did not lose money. << Maybe if they sold Princesses gowns, and Pirates hats it would still be around.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I was on the College Program in '92 and hung out there just about every night. (Bought an annual pass to the place.) We did some drinking but we couldn't afford to get obnoxiously drunk. Are you kidding me? And, to be honest, I never saw drug use in PI. Maybe there was drug use before people went into PI (though I didn't even see that) but I think most of us were afraid of losing our jobs if we got caught doing something too stupid in there. Of course, PI was still pretty young and popular in '92. The nightly New Year's Eve party was still going on and all the clubs were still pretty fresh.
Originally Posted By sjhym33 I am curious how Universal City Walk is holding up these days. Is it busy? What kind of business is it doing? I usually head out of there well before the sun sets so I really don't know.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper The thing City Walk has going for it is two theme parks and 50,000+ people a day who walk through it twice...once on the way home. Last time I was there (last Fall) it looked like they were still hopping.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>There's a better chance of it happening the way I mentioned than them just reopening it out of the blue, IMO.<<< Really? You really think they'd volley around on the issue like that? I don't see it. It'd be nice, but I don't think that it's probable.
Originally Posted By sjhym33 Pleasure Island to me is another remnant of Michael Eiser's reign when Disney built things that really had nothing to do with their business. Today we have a mostly unused race track and a nightclub area that is pretty much empty.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I so agree. Bring back the one, and only, one of a kind, true Disney at it's best classic Adventurers Club!<<< Yep.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Pleasure Island to me is another remnant of Michael Eiser's reign when Disney built things that really had nothing to do with their business. Today we have a mostly unused race track and a nightclub area that is pretty much empty.<<< Wasn't empty until they closed them...
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Entertainment (Pleasure Island) is not Disney's business? I'm not sure I follow that logic.
