Originally Posted By Roger55 >>I'm a crippled up old man. I can no longer jaunt around the globe as in my youth. I have to rely on the multiple sources that I read, and the multiple sources I watch on TV, and my friends that still very much travel around, for my world views.<< I'm sorry to hear this. I wish everyone could have a chance to go visit not only TDR but the country of Japan. A friend of mine that just came back from a first trip to Japan(sans TDR) proclaimed to me, "my new favorite place in the world to visit!". And as to be expected, she was amazed at the level of service and how society functioned in general. I am interested in how thw WSJ measured productivity. Sounds like an interesting read.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I am interested in how thw WSJ measured productivity. Sounds like an interesting read. << I googled it to make sure she knew what she was talking about. The report was only released 2 days ago. <a href="http://247wallst.com/2010/06/28/72005/" target="_blank">http://247wallst.com/2010/06/28/72005/</a>
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Just to go back to an earlier post, I didn't mean the actual castle looks like crap, but rather the castle without anything to frame it, aka trees.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Just to go back to an earlier post, I didn't mean the actual castle looks like crap, but rather the castle without anything to frame it, aka trees.<<< So what does that have to with the structure itself? And our castle wasn't framed by trees originally, either. They let them get over grown. If they would have been kept the original size they were in the 70s they'd have been fine.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<So what does that have to with the structure itself? And our castle wasn't framed by trees originally, either. They let them get over grown. If they would have been kept the original size they were in the 70s they'd have been fine. >> It has to do with it looking bad, and inorganic with absolutely nothing in front of it. It wasn't framed because they hadn't grown yet. But even then, the trees in front of it made it look real. made it look much more organic than it does now.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>american castles are not as grand as paris. those frenchmen get a more gothic with flying butrusses, asymetrical features, fantasy inspired detailed castle. We get squat, heavy looking ones that lack imagination. They get a living dragon and we get posters and murals. they get beautifully terraced grasses and we get swan and bird poop. The fourth of July is fast appraoching and those frenchmen, even though they don't like americans much, beat us at our own game like building a better mousetrap or in this case a better disneyland. << I disagree. There is nothing "squat" or "braced up". I find it graceful, and imposing. It makes a statement. It fits our park very well, where an organic castle, such as DLP's would be grossly out of place. As for it's content, yeah, you got me there.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>They eat raw fish, live in tiny little rooms in crowded buildings, and everything cost a fotune. But it's worth it for the cheap non-government approved Sake, and the Akadama wine.<<< Tokyo DisneySEA. WORTH IT.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> It has to do with it looking bad, and inorganic with absolutely nothing in front of it. It wasn't framed because they hadn't grown yet. But even then, the trees in front of it made it look real. made it look much more organic than it does now.<<< Look, at some of the original media. The trees were there, were of moderate size, and didn't cover anything up. And honestly, it looks like it does now. The trees in our hub, now, aren't very much smaller than the original ones.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> It has to do with it looking bad, and inorganic with absolutely nothing in front of it. It wasn't framed because they hadn't grown yet. But even then, the trees in front of it made it look real. made it look much more organic than it does now.<<< Look, at some of the original media. The trees were there, were of moderate size, and didn't cover anything up. And honestly, it looks like it does now. The trees in our hub, now, aren't very much smaller than the original ones.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> And our castle wasn't framed by trees originally, either. They let them get over grown. If they would have been kept the original size they were in the 70s they'd have been fine. << TREE HATER!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> It has to do with it looking bad, and inorganic with absolutely nothing in front of it. << That's TDO answer to the WOW factor. It's suppose to knock your socks off when you get that unobstructed view of the Castle, and the fireworks. To heck with the shade.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>TREE HATER! <<< The irony, is that I'm a tree huger. LOL. >>That's TDO answer to the WOW factor. It's suppose to knock your socks off when you get that unobstructed view of the Castle, and the fireworks. To heck with the shade.<<< Works on me... *runs away*
Originally Posted By MPierce >> The irony, is that I'm a tree huger. LOL. << But you only want to hug them after their cut down, and laying on the ground. Spirit has a lot more work to do on you.
Originally Posted By MPierce Note to myself. Remember sometimes it should be they're, instead of their, and sometimes it should be you're, instead of your!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ anywhere else, I would be for saving the huge, overgrown trees. Just not when the block the castle and the fireworks. LOL.
Originally Posted By MPierce ^^^Think of all the litle birdies, and squirels that were made homeless when the Mouse took them down.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I'm sure they found new homes in the scrub next to the Castle....
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I'm sure they found new homes in the scrub next to the Castle.... << That's like moving from a mansion to a shanty town though.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 ">>I'm pretty sure it's not a real castle. Yes, it does have some neat details to it that the MK castle does not, but it benefitted from being built 20+ years later, with an out-of-control budget.<< And the MK castle has details and a look that fits our MK much better than DLP's would. Not getting why everyone suddenly wants to beat up on our Castle. Lol. . " Agreed. I MUCH prefer MK's/TDL's castle to the Paris one, which I ALWAYS felt was odd looking and way too pink. Cindy's is just THE EPITOME of what a castle should look like. Gleaming, regal and BEAUTIFUL.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>That's like moving from a mansion to a shanty town though.<<< Nah, those pines are NICE. >>> Agreed. I MUCH prefer MK's/TDL's castle to the Paris one, which I ALWAYS felt was odd looking and way too pink. Cindy's is just THE EPITOME of what a castle should look like. Gleaming, regal and BEAUTIFUL.<<< Agreed. Though, I would not call DLP's odd. It's just...different, and in a good way. But I would not want it in the MK.
