Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>This tells us two things - Cain will lie - and badly - when he thinks it will help him. Also, he's covering up because he's worried this scandal will have an impact, so there's something there.<< The ludicrous notion that he didn't know if there had been a settlement or agreement or whatever is beyond insulting. Of course he knew. But even so, you have to wonder why he would have not just mentioned this early on, to get it out of the way. Did he really believe it would never come up? Apparently he did. I don't know if he was guilty of anything or not. But to expect people to believe he has forgotten the details is absurd.
Originally Posted By mele <<The ludicrous notion that he didn't know if there had been a settlement or agreement or whatever is beyond insulting. Of course he knew.>> So, if he hasn't lied about it and was completely oblivious, he seems to think that ignorance of important financial/legal matters in his own life is something we should just let slide? He just pays people to completely control and shelter him from things like this? And this is a trait we'd want in our POTUS? What the what?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Cain is another I'd just like to see go away-- I can't take him seriously
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Cain is another I'd just like to see go away-- I can't take him seriously
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I never did to begin with. And I'm sure nobody really is. To the Republican's or conservatives he's out there to dispell the notion that they are racist. A claim I don't believe, elements yes but wholesale now. And you know me I'd say the same thing about Democrats. The Democrats know that he's not really a threat to Obama because Obama will get the African-American vote anyway. And to some in the African-American community Cain and prominent African-American conservatives, they're nothing more than a bunch of Uncle Tom's.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Cain is about as serious in running for President as was Trump. He has no real intention of becoming President; he's doing this to jump start his popularity so he can charge higher fees for his motivational speaking gigs and sell more books. If Cain was seriously running, he'd have his act together better than this. The "Cancer Man" smoking guy in his creepy ad has been heavily fined and barred from participating in Wisconsin politics for three years because of election law violations (<a href="http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/10/31/356995/financial-records-suggest-cain-campaign-received-illegal-corporate-funding/" target="_blank">http://thinkprogress.org/justi...funding/</a>). And Cain wants this guy to run his campaign? No way he's serious. Cain is basically pimping himself for financial gain. He witnessed Sarah Palin going from a nobody politician from Alaska to a multi-millionaire raking in high speaking fees and book deals and a regular guest spot on Faux News. This is what Cain truly wants, not a four-year gig in the White House. And anybody who can't do the simple math on this is a fool.
Originally Posted By HongKongFoooy ok mr., i brushed up on my politics and now i'm ready for you. i have come with full suit of armor and a flail. cain has the goods to make a lot of trouble for president obama. you don't get to be head of papa johns pizza unless you can handle money and people. i expect a great fight in 2012 and may the best man win. thanks, Lowden
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Cain is about as serious in running for President as was Trump. He has no real intention of becoming President; he's doing this to jump start his popularity so he can charge higher fees for his motivational speaking gigs and sell more books.<< I'd actually heard this as well from a couple of journalists on Bill Maher a week or two ago. I was surprised, as Cain didn't seem as transparent as Trump to me. But these journalists who follow this stuff for a living acted like it was the worst-kept secret in politics, kind of a given that everybody knows.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> you don't get to be head of papa johns pizza unless you can handle money and people. << Papa John's is not on trial here! Cain was the CEO for Godfathers Pizza.
Originally Posted By gadzuux All of this "he's not a serious candidate" talk would be a lot more believable if he weren't the current front-runner, beating out all other GOP candidates including Romney. Do I think Cain will be the nominee? No. Do I think republican voters are F'n nuts? Yes. And what better example than Cain being top of the polls for the past month.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "But these journalists who follow this stuff for a living acted like it was the worst-kept secret in politics, kind of a given that everybody knows" Much of this is based on the fact that Cain has only the most minimal staff on the ground in IA and NH. So it looks like (and it may well be the case) that he's not serious about winning the contests; just in creating a Herman Cain "brand" that then becomes valuable in all the ways gad talked about.
Originally Posted By HongKongFoooy ##Cain was the CEO for Godfathers Pizza.## oops, my bad. thanks for the help. what if he were the head of chukee cheese? would that have made him more qualified?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "what if he were the head of chukee cheese? would that have made him more qualified?" Pukee Cheese? Upchuck Cheese? What?
Originally Posted By HongKongFoooy it's the pizza joint that has audioanimotonics of a singing mouse and kids love it. it sounds like disneyland doesn't it? anyway they have these chuckee e cheeses all over with very good tasting pepperoni and pineapple. funny funny Lowden has found this to be funny
Originally Posted By HongKongFoooy what am i doing here? i was supposed to be out of the world affairs already. it's been fun. see you in the parks, ok and thanks.
Originally Posted By dshyates It has been disclosed that one of the women recieved a one year salary ($35,000) settlement/ severance. That is unheard of for someone at that pay grade. So it appears that there is something to these allegations.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Agreeing to a settlement of one year of salary for being "falsely" accused of sexual harassment rarely happens unless the victim had either an airtight case of actual harassment and/or embarrassing information regarding the harasser that would have surfaced during the trial. I'm guessing it's the latter, possibly involving physical evidence a la Anthony Wiener type photos. No way Cain would have allowed that to surface, if he wanted to maintain his professional relationship with the restaurant industry.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Apparently, he very testily cancelled a press conference today. All campaigns do opposition research. This couldn't have been that hard to find, with minimal digging, from his time at the NRA. My guess is that multiple campaigns found this out. So which one stands to benefit from it coming out now? Not Obama. I think he'd be thrilled to face Cain. And they'd have saved it for next summer/fall, in the highly unlikely event Cain was the nominee. Not Romney. He benefits from having multiple candidates split the tea party/evangelical vote that can't stand him. He wants the greatest number of viable candidates for as long as possible, delaying the inevitable "Romney vs. One other guy" as long as possible. So my guess is it was the Perry or Santorum or Bachmann campaigns. They benefit from getting Cain out of the way, sooner rather than later.
