Originally Posted By DAR Last night was the first time I felt the show was really good this season. Great ending.
Originally Posted By smeeeko I'm actually looking forward to next week. =) I'm hoping the Hiro storyline gets straightened out though. What a mess. =(
Originally Posted By christiemarsh88 I'm beginning to think I'm the only person on the planet who likes the Hiro storyline. And the big reveal at the end has real promise. I won't say anymore, for those Tivo users out there!
Originally Posted By hopemax I loved the Hiro storyline, but I am a fan of David Anders from Alias. I predicted the "twist" but it makes me happy. Although I am relieved to have Hiro and Ando in the same timeline again. And I'm glad about the other reveals that happened in this episode, everyone should be getting back together soon, I would think.
Originally Posted By ni_teach Now I feel like the whole things is starting to come together. I did like last nights show.
Originally Posted By cstephens There were parts of tonight's episode I liked, but it was losing me with all the popping around that Peter was doing. Great, *yet* another time period. When Hiro was talking to his girl about Kensei, I kept expecting him to say, "There is still good in him. I have felt it." The teaser for next week's episode better be right. I expect ANSWERS. /cs
Originally Posted By christiemarsh88 Interesting article, everybody. Title is "'Heroes' creator to fans: 'I'm super sorry'" <a href="http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0" target="_blank">http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0</a>,,20158840,00.html "The message is that we've heard the complaints — and we're doing something about it." Pretty interesting read.
Originally Posted By cstephens OK, the link isn't working - can you give a synopsis of the article and who it's written by? /cs
Originally Posted By DAR Well it's written by a writer who works for EW. The basic gist of the article is that Kiring talks about some mistakes they've made. Like keeping Hiro in feudal Japan too long. Not really defining what the Guatemalan Wonder Twins really can do. The pacing was too slow. And giving love stories to Hiro's and Claire's characters.
Originally Posted By hopemax Waiting until now to show the "Apocolyptic Future" instead of doing it in the first episode of the season, so viewers knew what was at stake. Introducing new characters too far removed from existing characters...(the wonder twins all by themselves vs. Elle trying to get Peter)
Originally Posted By christiemarsh88 Hmm...that's kind of wierd. I don't know why that address won't work as a link. But if you'll just copy and paste it into the address bar, it'll work. Sorry about that!
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <a href="http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0" target="_blank">http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0</a>,,20158840,00.html
Originally Posted By WorldDisney LOL, sorry kids I tried . I will just paste the entire article: <<On the chilly Monday morning that Hollywood's writers went on strike, Heroes creator Tim Kring called from the streets outside the Hollywood studio where his NBC series is shot. ''Yes, I'm picketing my own show,'' says the 50-year-old writer-producer. ''So surreal.'' But Kring wasn't calling to discuss labor woes — he was calling to explain why Heroes, suffering a creative decline and a 15 percent ratings drop from the same period last year, went from Human Torch hot to Iceman cold. The good news? A turnaround appears to be under way. After weeks of sluggish storytelling, the Nov. 5 episode recaptured some of last season's fanciful energy. We've also seen the next two episodes — and we like them, too. The cliff-hangers are back. Narrative purpose has been discovered. Old favorites like Peter (Milo Ventimiglia) and Horn-Rimmed Glasses (Jack Coleman) take center stage. Even more encouraging: Kring himself is keenly aware that Heroes is broken. Here's his candid critique: THE PACE IS TOO SLOW ''We assumed the audience wanted season 1 — a buildup of intrigue about these characters and the discovery of their powers. We taught [them] to expect a certain kind of storytelling. They wanted adrenaline. We made a mistake.'' THE WORLD-SAVING STAKES SHOULD HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED SOONER The premonition of nuclear apocalypse created a larger context that unified every story line last season. Kring now sees that Volume 2 (the first 11 episodes of season 2) would have been better served if Peter's vision of viral Armageddon had appeared in the season premiere rather than episode 7. ''We took too long to get to the big-picture story,'' he says. THE ROOKIES DIDN'T GREET THEMSELVES PROPERLY New Heroes Monica (Dana Davis), Maya (Dania Ramirez), and Alejandro (Shalim Ortiz) ''shouldn't have been introduced in separate story lines that felt unattached to the show. The way we introduced Elle (Kristen Bell) — by weaving her in via Peter's story line — is a more logical way to bring new characters into the show.'' (That said, Kring says a few newbies won't make it beyond this second volume, which wraps Dec. 3.) HIRO WAS IN JAPAN WAY TOO LONG Hiro's (Masi Oka) time-bending adventure in 17th-century Japan — where he mentored samurai hero Takezo Kensei (David Anders) — finally came to an end on Nov. 5. But Kring says it ''should have [lasted] three episodes. We didn't give the audience enough story to justify the time we allotted it.'' YOUNG LOVE STINKS Kring regrets sticking Claire (Hayden Panettiere) with a super-dud boyfriend and forcing Hiro to moon over a cutesy princess. ''I've seen more convincing romances on TV,'' he admits. ''In retrospect, I don't think romance is a natural fit for us.'' Yet while Heroes has finally found some dramatic traction, this second volume is pretty much a wash. The Dec. 3 episode has been retooled to function as a potential season finale — a move inspired by the writers' strike and a desire to give the show ''a clean slate'' when it goes back into production for Volume 3. At that point, Kring wants to craft a rebooted Heroes that can attract new fans and win back those who've tuned out: ''The message is that we've heard the complaints — and we're doing something about it.''>> Glad he admitted this, since I felt the same about ALL these issues personnally. The show HAS been slow, very little pay off, out-of-nowhere new characters, redundant plots and the worst crime of all, a boooring storyline with Hiro!! But the last episode was good and although I saw that ending coming at least 3 episodes ago, it was still good and surprising. We'll see if it all gets turned around .
Originally Posted By SoThisIsLove Thank you for that article. (And it's nice to know we all felt that way about the show, isn't it?) Ya-ta!
Originally Posted By hopemax It doesn't work because of the commas. There are certain symbols that if they appear in a URL the software running the site thinks means it isn't a URL anymore and cuts off the link. I think a % sign is another one that messes things up.
Originally Posted By cstephens Thanks for posting the article, and yes, very nice that they recognize the problems, unlike the "Lost" writers. Glad to hear they're working to get it back on track. /cs
Originally Posted By christiemarsh88 Actually, the Lost writers did realize at least some of the problems. Or, at least they responded to fan complaints. I saw an interview where they said that they had a whole new mystery planned out for Nikki and Paolo, but they killed them and scrapped it since the fans were complaining.
Originally Posted By velo argh...I missed about 10 mins of this near the start.. I saw some backstory on Peter/Nathan and then the twins. Did they show anything of Sylar?
Originally Posted By Mrs ElderP not a thing on sylar (or claire or suresh/matt/molly or many others for that matter, hmmm)... and they can kill Sylar off if they want!! Velo, if you're in the US, you can go to NBC.com and watch the episode, or at least the 10 minutes you missed.
