Originally Posted By cstephens OK, I forgive them, for now. They didn't explain anything about how Sylar survived or how and why he was where he was at the beginning of this season, but they answered enough other questions that I'll let that go for now. Nathan - Now we know why he's continued to have these visions of the burned man. I wonder, though, that he didn't die since it looked like he had third-degree burns over so much of his body. And does he or his mother know how he was healed? And does having Adam's blood in him have any other effects on him other than having healed his burns, like can he now regenerate as well? And what the heck is mom's power? Peter - His mother told Nathan that Peter was still missing and that they were still searching for him. But lots of people saw Peter bring Nathan into the hospital. Wouldn't someone, especially the cop, remember him and have been able to describe him enough so that his mother knew it was him who had brought Nathan in? Nathan was probably too out of it to remember any time that Peter was there. Adam - So apparently, he's hundreds of years old but doesn't age because of his regenerative powers. Since Claire also has regenerative powers, does that mean she won't age either? Is she going to be high-school age for the rest of her life? And is Adam ultimately going to be revealed to somehow be related to Claire? Do we know for a *fact* that Nathan is Claire's bio-dad? Adam obviously knew Nathan's mom - who's to say Adam didn't have a thing with Claire's bio-mom? Niki - So Jessica's gone, but party girl Gina came out to play, and Niki is now racked with guilt because she knows that she was responsible for D.L.'s death. Maya - It was weird that she ended up killing everyone in the vicinity. The other times we've seen it happen, it's been concentrated to where she is. Wonder how far her killing ability reaches. Elle - She was really irritating me with her "can't keep her hands off Peter" thing. She did become a little more sympathetic when she told her backstory. She's been isolated from society - no wonder she's going to pounce on Peter. In a previous episode, she was on the phone with her "boss", who she also referred to as "dad". Is that Bob? And at the end, when Elle is going after escaped Adam and Peter, she uses her lightning power as the Haitian is standing right by her. I thought the Haitian neutralizes powers. Why was she able to use hers around him? I'm looking forward to the further developments in Hiro's story, and at some point, you know he's going to see Kensei/Adam. /cs
Originally Posted By velo yes, it looks like Hiro will attempt to do something to stop his fathers murder...will be interesting to see if he succeeds.
Originally Posted By christiemarsh88 We really don't know much at all about the generation of heroes that this season seems to revolve around--Nakamura, the Petrelli Parents, Bob, etc. Linderman and Parkman, Sr. are the only ones whose powers have been revealed. I'm a little disappointed about that. Hopefully, we'll find out more next episode, now that Nakamura's apparantly going to be in the picture again.
Originally Posted By smeeeko hurray! I *heart* George Takei.. =) I don't know about that Adam guy.. I usually don't talk to the TV but I was like "don't trust him Peter!!" and SeanYoda was like snickering "you don't know that.." "BUT HIRO!!!??" sigh.. yeah, I got my loyalties on Hiro and Peter. Then again, who knows anymore?? I thought Hiro's dad was a bad guy and I changed my mind. * * * * * **** The guy who plays the head of the Company bugs me and I don't like "Elle" she's just annoying. (not to mention the twins story line is getting old for me.. although I am glad they sort it out with the "4 months earlier" episode..
Originally Posted By seanyoda << I thought the Haitian neutralizes powers. Why was she able to use hers around him? >> Because he didn't want to neutralize her power. Given that the Hatian can control his power to remove memories, he should have the ability to control whose powers he neutralizes.
Originally Posted By christiemarsh88 One thing we wondered--when the Haitian was chasing Peter through the shipping yard, at one point Peter tried to shock him with the power he took from Elle. Of course, the Haitian had neutralized his power, but Peter didn't realize it yet. If Peter didn't realize that the Haitian had neutralized his powers, why didn't he try to fly away? Seems like that would have been a much better plan.
Originally Posted By hopemax Because the script said he had to get caught, duh! I told DH, it would be nice if he could just, say, FLY AWAY!
Originally Posted By christiemarsh88 <<<I was wondering why he didn't become invisible!>>> Great minds think...similarly, anyway.
Originally Posted By velo another cool episode! Altho I kinda saw the ending coming.... so I guess we'll now consider Mohinder a bad guy?
Originally Posted By cstephens I liked this episode, with a few more bits of information revealed to us. I'm finding myself interested again in how the issues will be resolved, at least temporarily. It was pretty much telegraphed that Matt Parkman was going to go where he ended up going with using more of his power, but I like that they did it in bits, first with him getting Molly to do what he wanted and then getting his boss to let him continue investigating. I think we were left to hope that he wasn't really going to go all the way when Angela Petrelli told him that he was becoming just like his father, but since he did get the name of the mystery woman in the end (and I keep thinking she looks an awful lot like Joanna Cassidy), he must have had to take that from Angela against her will. I think the story of Elle is kind of interesting, but I'm not sure if they're going to be able to give her the depth that she needs. So far, she's a fairly one-dimensional character. She's pretty much been sheltered all her life, and she's been taught that people are toys or pets, which explains her behaviour towards Peter previously and in reference to Mohinder, her comment of "he's adorable - can I keep him?" They tried to give her a little more background by telling you about her life growing up, so that you do start to feel a little sympathy for her, but it's not until the end that you see something might actually be happening to change her. Guess we'll see in the next episode. However, I did think it was great when she woke up and realized she was tied up and then just tried to zap her way out of it - only to elocute herself because her feet were in a bucket of water and she'd been spritzed with water. Priceless. When Bob was posing as a Board of Education member or whatever and talking to Claire and then calls her "Ms. Bennett" - was that really an accident? From the way he was wording it, it almost seemed like he meant to do it. He was saying things as if to let her know that he was onto her, so what better way than to call her by her real name? Hiro's travels with his father was a bit of a diversion, but I liked the end result, that his father was taking his death calmly, that Hiro came to accept that he couldn't just save his father because he personally wanted to do it, and the closure that was arrived between father and son before the father's death. But the reveal I've been waiting for happened - Hiro looked into the face of the man who killed his father and saw that it was Adam/Kensei. Oh, and I liked the explanation of why Adam hasn't aged, that he's regenerated so many times so he stays at that age. I wonder what the threshold is. I mean, how many times has Claire healed herself? And does it have to be completely or just parts? We know she did a lot of experiments in her original high school at least. And the painting comes true - Mohinder kills Noah. Ummm, well, he shoots Noah at least. But then you get that funky, gross resurrection scene at the end. Hmmm, so Bob got enough blood from Claire to heal Noah *and* Nikki? Is there any left over? If Claire just becomes the sole donor to the Red Cross, everyone's good. Well, at least until that nasty virus hits next week anyway. And now, Peter has gotten sucked into Adam's plan. Peter, who was given information by his later-ally Hiro has now thrown in with Hiro's arch-nemesis (?) to save the world. Question is, does Peter really know what he's gotten himself into? And did Adam change his ways from wanting to hurt Hiro any way he could, or is that really still the driving force behind his actions? /cs
Originally Posted By christiemarsh88 After 400 years, surely Adam has bigger fish to fry than Hiro. I really dislike Mohinder--and not just because he shot HRG. His motives never seem to ring true, and his accent's driving me crazy. I'm wondering why HRG's been resurrected, and by whom. Bob is the obvious answer, but I've heard some people speculate that Mohinder and HRG may have had this plan all along--Mohinder shot HRG and then resurrected him, leaving the company to assume he's dead. By HRG's reaction when he came back, I don't think this theory holds water, but it's interesting none the less. My dad is convinced that he's figured out Mama Petrelli's power, and I think he may be right: she has the power of persuasion. Check out this clip between Angela and Heidi from a couple of weeks ago. <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=xBsRzIs1y7w" target="_blank">http://youtube.com/watch?v=xBs RzIs1y7w</a> Angela is stroking Heidi's arm and hair, and Heidi seems almost hypnotized, ready to go along with anything Angela says. Could be because she sees the logic, but I think it's Angela's power at work. She's tried to do the same thing before to Nathan and Peter, being very touchy while trying to convince them of something.
Originally Posted By cstephens But then wouldn't Angela's power be more or less like Matt's? Matt can convince people to do things by planting the thought in their head. I've heard people point to that clip, and I'm not buying it. /cs
Originally Posted By cstephens So I guess I hadn't paid enough attention to connect the verbal dots, but getting hit by a clue by four finally did it - the virus is named after Mohinder's sister. So is that why his blood doesn't work to counteract that, because he's a relative? OK, Noah's healed. What I really want to know, though, is does that mean he doesn't have to wear glasses anymore? Does it heal *everything* or just up to where he was before? Sylar has managed to wrap Maya around his little finger. He's still evil, but in a purely human way now, without the special powers - yet. He knows just what to say to get Maya to trust him and be attracted to him and think that he's her saviour. He even tries to sacrifice himself to save her, to show her that she can control her own powers. OK, well, if she can control her power now, then why does she still need Mohinder? Didn't she need him because she couldn't control herself and she needed someone to help her do that, other than her brother? And poor Alejandro. He didn't know exactly who he was getting involved with. The shot of Sylar and Maya kissing outside his room as he shuts the door on Alejandro's stabbed dead body in the room was chilling. Body count 1. I loved the scenes with Claire trying to pack her things. She goes through a litany of the physical harm that's come to her, that she's always healed from, but the one thing her powers can't do is heal her broken heart. So Mohinder thinks he's found a cure for the virus to save Nikki, but he may not be able to test it since Sylar and Maya are now "babysitting" Molly. Uh oh. Micah and his copycat cousin get themselves into a mess of trouble. But we knew that was coming when the camera focussed in on the cousin when Nikki was consoling Micah. And, I win the lottery. That was in fact Joanna Cassidy playing Victoria. When her name came up in the credits, I actually yelled at the television. Her character is there to explain a few things, I guess, and to really show that Peter is completely being mislead. She only lasted one show. Body count 2. But if Victoria left the company when Hiro's dad refused to destroy the virus and decided to hide it instead, when was the picture taken that we've been seeing? That was obviously taken at a later time. And the ending - it comes down to Hiro versus Peter. Yeah, I knew it was going to be a cliffhanger. /cs
Originally Posted By hopemax > So is that why his blood doesn't work to counteract that, because he's a relative? < His blood did work to counteract some strains of the virus; his blood cured Molly and the Haitian. But there are mutated strains of the virus that are immune to Mohinder's blood. So that's when they went after Claire's blood. Whether Claire's blood can cure the deadly strain 138 is an unanswered question... And I really don't care about Maya/Sylar. Of course, they still had to go because Mohinder has to "fix" Sylar.
Originally Posted By velo LOL, when I saw it was Joanna Cassidy in the credits, I thought of you cstephens!
Originally Posted By DAR I'm okay with Nikki dying or did she. And does anyone think it was HRG that pulled the trigger on Nathan.
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains Okay Adam gave Nathan his blood to heal his wounds from the explosion last year - so is he really dead now? Loved that Adam was buried alive - just wish Sylar was in there too - I think that character ran it's course last year and is now just annoying.
