Originally Posted By brotherdave TRON is far from being a "stinker" as Mr. Lutz claims. No, it isn't a "Grand Slam" like the first Pirates, but, hey, it seems like a solid "Triple" to me. Great FX with decent story, characters, and acting (ok not a "great" story, which is where it hurts a little, but it is certainly decent overall). I certainly give it personal "thumbs up" and would rate it a very positive B+. I certainly liked this better than Star Wars Episodes I or II, so as sequels go, it's definitely above average. I'll even say that it surpasses the original in almost every way (and this isn't a slam to the original at all as I've always liked it, just felt it was a bit "clunky" in sections). Peronally, I hope we get at least a TRON III and finally see some TRON based attractions in the parks (how about retheming Wonders of Life at EPCOT into an ENCOM themed pavilion with a Tron simulator ride to replace Body Wars???)
Originally Posted By Christi22222 Brotherdave - I agree on all fronts! Dizkid - count another fan of your analysis. Fun read with a great breakdown for the unenlightened!
Originally Posted By dizkid Thanks Guys. I am Holiday Break and I am going to go see Tron Legacy again tommorow morning, only this time i'm gonna see it... (drumroll) IN IMAX I cant wait. My parents didn't want to see it in IMAX the first time, cause they wanted to pay attention to the story as opposed to the fx the first time, and I now agree with them. Unless a film is completely dependent on effects to make it good (**cough** Avatar) then it is probbably a good idea to see in regular format first.
Originally Posted By brotherdave OK, some geek questions here: What was the "food" that they were eating at Flynn's place in the movie??? From what I remember in the original movie, they only needed to "drink" from a pure power source for energy (which appeared as water-like in the film). But since they're supposed to be digital entities, why would they need "food"? Only electrical power would be necessary, right??? Also, why did Kevin Flynn appear aged??? Shouldn't he just be a digital form of himself when he got "zapped" into the TRON world??? Just some plot holes that sort of bugged me from watching the movie...
Originally Posted By FerretAfros My understanding was that the human characters continue to be human within the computer. Because of this, they still need to eat, and still get old. I'm not sure how ISOs figure into that, but I would assume they either need to eat occasionally, or can eat if they want to. I don't think that programs could eat at all, since that is not part of their purpose. This also explains why Kevin Flynn aged, which CLU stayed young the whole time. They're in a digital world, but since there is no real-world copy of them at the time, they are alive in there, so they are real beings (hence the blood during the disc war scene).
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I drew the same conclusion as Ferret Afros really. though the thing I did wonder, is how they got the food, and also, do they have bathrooms for the Flynn boys?
Originally Posted By DlandDug I also wondered about the source of the food. More troubling: Why would Flynn have a whole roasted and glazed PIG on the table?
Originally Posted By Christi22222 ^^^You guys are killing me here!! Not that these aren't legitimate things that come up in our very practical heads. But I learned long ago that if I wanted to enjoy sci-fi/fantasy, I was going to have to give up any attempt to connect it with reality. Even the stupendous films of this genre, have holes. But this one required me to leave my brain in the closet the first time I heard the plot way back in the 80's. Seriously, I'm a biologist here - humans in a computer living within an electronic grid? Umm, food and bathrooms were the least of concerns!
Originally Posted By dizkid Kevin: I am very happy to see you Sam. Now wait here for about 6 hours while I cook this pig.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo lol. By why was it in TRON that DUMONT was old, and yet in TRON Legacy, only Kevin Flynn is old?
Originally Posted By dizkid The dr. in the first film created the DUMONT program when he was older. The whole point is that users age, programs don't. But don't even ask me if Isose age or not.
Originally Posted By dizkid BTW just got back from seeing it in IMAX and was very impressed. The movie has great re-viewing potentional. And listening to music in the IMAX theatre makes me think that Daft Punk has very good odds at winning for best score at the oscars, that is if it can beat out Hans Zimmer for Inception.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "But I learned long ago that if I wanted to enjoy sci-fi/fantasy, I was going to have to give up any attempt to connect it with reality." Ironically, I got to go to a screening Monday night at the El Capitan where they had a panel discussion before the film, featuring the director, the producer, and two scientists from the Jet Propulsion Lab in Pasadena. They talked and talked about how they worked together to create a believeable set of rules for the film, but never once brought up the requirements for sustaining users' life. I could tell that they really didn't want to bore the audience with a lot of technical details, but that there really weren't too many to share anyway. One of the cool things I learned is that the laser that zaps Sam into the computer has canisters attached to it, to hold the elements to recreate him when he exits. Since matter cannot be created or destroyed, they had to do something with it while he was in the computer, so he's supposedly stored there.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Ok, does that mean then that Sam has some of his father's matter in him, since they were both zapped in?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>I also wondered about the source of the food.<< It's a well-known fact that all computer geeks eat at their workstation. So bits of food are constantly falling into the keyboard, where micro-sized humans could gather them up for nourishment. Nourishment comprised largely of Doritos, and Little Debbie snack cakes and occasional dribbles of spilled Red Bull, but beggars can't be choosers. >>and also, do they have bathrooms for the Flynn boys?<< Data dump. >>Why would Flynn have a whole roasted and glazed PIG on the table?<< Must be some kind of memory hog. Badda zing! Geek stand up! I'll be here all week.
