Originally Posted By vbdad55 <>> my math must be bad ? << I'm referring to US involvement. < not trying to be picky but 1941-45 is still not shorter than 2003 - 2006 is it ?
Originally Posted By gadzuux Something I heard a pundit say, and I believed it. Perhaps they're referring to the greater 'war on terror'.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Something I heard a pundit say, and I believed it. Perhaps they're referring to the greater 'war on terror'< yeah, that would fit....and unfortunately I believe it will be the longest 'war' we ever participate in..
Originally Posted By bboisvert I think that 'gadzuux' would be referring to the start of the US involvment in WWII (12/7/41) up to VE Day (5/8/45) That would be roughly 3 yrs, 5 months. We just passed that milestone with OIF.
Originally Posted By MagicSnakes "Hey libs americans dont want to act like the french" what are you talking about? first off. you group americans as one certain thing-a stereotype of your own people! what are you some kind of anti american? second you stereotype the french. so pretty much you just mock others and group people into your little categories that you can pick apart and hate to your content. think about this guy: you come onto a disney website to argue about politics.....wow.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I think that 'gadzuux' would be referring to the start of the US involvment in WWII (12/7/41) up to VE Day (5/8/45) That would be roughly 3 yrs, 5 months. We just passed that milestone with OIF.< only problem with that is WWII did not end with VE day-- there was that little matter of Japan, no?
Originally Posted By bboisvert Hence the distinction that I made. Everyone should know that VJ Day is 8/15/45, an additional 3 months after VE Day. So, if we give OIF another 3 months, then we'll talk again. BTW, the President and all of the neo-cons are quite emphatic that we will not leave until the mission is complete. What is "the mission" these days? The President also said, "We're not leaving, so long as I'm the President." No kidding. Anyone want to guess how many US Military bases we are building in Iraq? We're also building a US Embassy in Iraq that is bigger than Vatican City. Sounds like that's the mission he's talking about. No, we're not leaving any time soon. Halibuton, et. al. will continue to get rich in Iraq for generations to come while unemployed and radicalized Iraqi civilians, other terrorist groups like al Qaida, and the rest of the world will very likely be rallying against us (and attacking us) for at least that long. They'll keep hating us as long as we are there, which will be for a very, very long time.
Originally Posted By patrickegan The lib’s just want to talk to these guys, I say we send Howie, Ned and that chick from code pink over to work things out. When they finally get these people to understand the joy’s that celebrating diversity brings why they’ll drop their suicide belts and forget all about jihad! Maybe we can have a delegation from the atheists and other freethinkers grip for Michael Moore’s new doc called “We can work it out!â€
Originally Posted By YourPalEd Well, it's not just iraq. The republicans are weak on defense on every level. It's because they are not clever that this is so. Also it's the fact they have no ability to acheive. Parasites only can steal through lying. When it comes to defense, the republicans always just let us get attacked, and then tell us you have to watch out for the enemies we've created around the world, by stealing their oil and then selling it to you at 4,000 times our cost.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <BTW, the President and all of the neo-cons are quite emphatic that we will not leave until the mission is complete. What is "the mission" these days? The President also said, "We're not leaving, so long as I'm the President." , unfortunately more and more I think the mission will include Iran before we leave, I hope I am wrong.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd We should get real americans negotiating with iran, not insistant prevaricators.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd I think for all my blabbing, iran is the real thing, and we will have to do a lot of improvising. Maybe bush isn't out yet, maybe he's goin to go one more war. It depends a lot if iran is serious also. Which, while i think their holocost museum maybe lightens tensions on all sides, when it comes to the mohamid cartoons, they seem to just not even care to negotiate anymore. Sort of like me with republicans. I hate to say it, but the selfishness on the iraq side, not varnished by republicans, but the real truth seems to be, they want to make atomic bombs to use against people, and not just electricity to charge their hybrids and laptops. I wish i could figure this iran thing out, but i am too dumb. I have no idea what the outcome will be, there are just too many variables. Mama.
Originally Posted By JohnS1 I don't believe it. The known idiot, Ed, admits he is too dumb to figure something out. Don't be so hard on yourself, Ed. Being dumb has never stopped anyone in this section of LP before.
Originally Posted By EdisYoda DISCLAIMER: EdisYoda is in no way currently or in the past affiliated, associated, or in cahoots with YourPalEd. EdisYoda does not endorse nor condone the opinions or actions of YourPalEd.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd EdisYoda, i don't think you need have any worries about being mistaken for me, or as a supporter of my words. I speak for myself alone, no one else can think what i can, or put it into words, maybe 1,200 people living right now. I am the real thing, and everyone knows it.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <So, if we give OIF another 3 months, then we'll talk again.> VE & VJ Days were followed by occupations of both Japan and Germany, so we'll need to wait longer than 3 months before OIF catches them.
Originally Posted By bboisvert Tragically, that is absolutely correct. Too bad there isn't a Marshall Plan for Iraq. If those Iraqis had jobs rebuilding their country, they'd have less time on their hands to spend on Jihad.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Too bad there isn't a Marshall Plan for Iraq. If those Iraqis had jobs rebuilding their country, they'd have less time on their hands to spend on Jihad.> I believe that's being tried. It took several years to implement the Marshall Plan, and several more for it to accomplish its goals.
Originally Posted By bboisvert But at least there was a plan. I haven't heard of any such plan for this occupation. Who is sponsoring this plan? I can't find anything about it. Let's hope that you're correct, for everyone's sake.