Originally Posted By MPierce HISTA will probably still be playing when they overlook celebrating Epcot's 50th Anniversary.
Originally Posted By dshyates The best part of the whole attractions: <a href="http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4391/histam.jpg" target="_blank">http://img530.imageshack.us/im...stam.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>hmm- should def be open in late July then--- hard to believe but I never saw it when it had it's original run<<< It opens July 2.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>>HISTA will probably still be playing when they overlook celebrating Epcot's 50th Anniversary.<<<< That HURT.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost I wouldn't be concerned if they were pulling out HISTA in place of a new improved attraction but to do it to put in Capt. EO, which was lame, at best, when it first was shown there, is enough to make me pull what little remaining hair that I have, completely out. All I can really hope for is that people other than myself will stay away in droves. In spite of his early career, MJ turned out to be a freaky sideshow that wasted his talents by being...how to say this...crazy! I would no more pay tribute to the person he became then purposely run over puppies with a bus. Unfortunately, the public never stops reinforcing weird, so it will probably be a smashing success. Perhaps even bigger then originally. That said...it won't be because I participated. I would rather have 10 more years of HISTA...which wasn't all that bad, btw, than one day of Saint MJ.
Originally Posted By danyoung I think there's something to be said for viewing artistic works individually, and not taint them all by the brush of the person's life and what he bacame. I loved EO in its original run, and am happy to see it return to DL where by all accounts it's been a large success. Note that Disney didn't say that EO was going into every park all at once - they tried it out at DL first, and it's proved to be a big hit. I prefer to enjoy the show for what it was, and not suddenly decide to dislike all of MJ's work because he became a strange dude in his later years.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>All I can really hope for is that people other than myself will stay away in droves.<<< Seeing that the exact opposite happened in DL, and that's why it was brought to WDW, I think that's a wasted wish.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I prefer to enjoy the show for what it was, and not suddenly decide to dislike all of MJ's work because he became a strange dude in his later years. << I think what bothers some people, myself included, is the way they now seem to be glorifying MJ in his weirdness, now that he's dead. I was not a fan in life. I am not a fan in death. I don't think MJ became weird in his later years. I think he has always been troubled. His character is not the image that Disney wishes to portray. Whick is why it's doublely strange to me that they are bringing back Captain EO. Wait a minute I just had an epiphany. Could it possibly be to cash in on Michael Jackson's death like the other bloodsuckers. While laying out very little money, and not having to come up with an original idea for JII. Could it be?
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 ^^Maybe you have something there. I wonder if they're sick of hearing LP people complaining about HISTA, so they're replacing it with EO until they can come up with something better??
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost I know it isn't as extreme but to me it ranks up there with saying...You know we should do a little movie about Adolf Hitler, the earlier years. He was a pretty good artist until he got involved with that killing of millions of Jews thing. I think it is perfectly legitimate to judge a person by what he or she ultimately became because, in my mind, that pretty much cancels out what he did before. I don't mind people having liked MJ early on, heck I liked some of his stuff as well, but what he became was much more relevant and damaging then whatever good he shared with his musical talent. Please, this is just my opinion, everyone else is entitled to their own. I'm not about to organize a movement to get MJ removed from the parks, it's just that I, personally will not be supporting it.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^While I don't agree with anything MJ may did(for the record I don't think he ever sexually abused anyone), I do feel incredibly sorry for him. I don't think he ever stood a chance at a normal life after what he went through when he was a kid. I'm a pretty big believer in your environment makes you who you are, and he was raised in a pretty crappy, possibly even abusive, environment.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I know it isn't as extreme but to me it ranks up there with saying...You know we should do a little movie about Adolf Hitler, the earlier years. He was a pretty good artist until he got involved with that killing of millions of Jews thing.<<< That's a little much, don't you think? Accused allegations versus genocide and murder?
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost I believe I said is was extreme but my point was that whatever a person was before has no real influence on what they become and this "worship" of MJ is out of line based on his actions later in his life. IMO!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Sorry, missed that. LOL. That said, I don't think it's worship, but a tribute to his entertainment- which IS warranted seeing how influential it was.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I think what bothers some people, myself included, is the way they now seem to be glorifying MJ in his weirdness, now that he's dead.>> No, they're actually avoiding/ignoring it. <<I was not a fan in life. I am not a fan in death.>> I was a huge fan of the Jackson 5 as a kid and liked MJ in the 80s. He was a genius as a performer from a very young age. <<I don't think MJ became weird in his later years. I think he has always been troubled.>> Agreed. But that's what happens when a child is abused. We know he was physically and emotionally abused and it is certainly possible he was sexually abused as well. All of that tends to make one a troubled soul as an adult. <<His character is not the image that Disney wishes to portray. Whick is why it's doublely strange to me that they are bringing back Captain EO.>> That I agree with completely. <<Wait a minute I just had an epiphany.>> Did you call a doctor? A priest? Mrs. Pierce? <<Could it possibly be to cash in on Michael Jackson's death like the other bloodsuckers. While laying out very little money, and not having to come up with an original idea for JII. Could it be?>> Yeah ... just like releasing his concer film ... just like releasing more of his music ... just like the new Cirque show ... yeah, it sure could be! Eo tees, pins, plush, magnets and mugs anybody?
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost OK, so where's the love for OJ? He did quite a bit before...you know! He was acquitted too! I'm not feeling the warm fuzzies for him from the public. What's that you say...we all know OJ did it? That's how I feel about MJ. The difference is that children are involved in this plot. I can't and won't forget that.
Originally Posted By danyoung >...and this "worship" of MJ is out of line based on his actions later in his life.< I don't condone "worship" of anybody, and I don't practice it with regards to MJ. But no one can say that his musical catalogue is anything short of incredible, and his influence on popular music in the 80's and 90's is simply huge. It makes no sense to deny this, just like it makes no sense to decide that the EO film is bad becuase of what MJ may or may not have done in his later years. And yes, MPierce, I'm sure money is totally involved. But I don't care - I loved the movie back then, and I can't wait to see it back in the theater where I saw it first.
