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Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Please provide a list of what you think the left wing noise machine consists of, and we'll look up their ratings and compare score.> First, how does on compare the ratings of most of the News departments of ABC, CNN, CBS, NBC, and MSNBC with Rush Limbaugh? Dave Letterman and Jon Stewart to Sean Hannity? Newsweek, the NY Times, and the Huffington Report to Fox News? Second, what would be the point? Do greater ratings for the left wing noise machine mean it's more legitimate, or just more subtle, or that it has a greater impact?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <His own writings are not "unfounded assertions."> Your conclusions about what they mean are.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< First, how does on compare the ratings of most of the News departments of ABC, CNN, CBS, NBC, and MSNBC >>> So is your assertion that the above are the left wing noise machine that you refer to, and they are the equivalent of the likes of <<< with Rush Limbaugh? >>> and what we've referred to as the right wing noise machine, except with the opposite political bias?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh What I listed in 103 are some elements of the left wing noise machine. The point of my post was that the left and right are not equivalent, so trying to compare ratings would be a fruitless exercise.
Originally Posted By DAR <<Actually, I'm in the midst of a study that will show how the dreaded "mainstream media" is in fact right leaning.>> I would imagine the owners of the newspapers the CEO's of say the Tribune Company and of course News Corp fall more under the right leaning banner. But are you looking at the editorial boards of these papers?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>The point of my post was that the left and right are not equivalent<< Then why is it so difficult to accept that this nutball's views lined up more with far right extremism than with far left extremism? If people, even nutballs, tend to filter their info and gravitate towards that which fits their worldview, it sure makes sense that far right rhetoric (via a little distortion by the nutball's warped mind) would be in line with a lot of this killer's views.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <His own writings are not "unfounded assertions."> <Your conclusions about what they mean are.> Ridiculous. He rants about the evils of liberalism, how the US has become a "Third-World racial garbage-dump," how Jews supposedly control the "liberal media," lists "Marxists/Jews/Liberals" as though they were the same thing and equally deserving of scorn, insists that Obama was not born in the US, - ALL far-right-wing tropes - and then notes approvingly the "Right wing websites (that) illuminate the problems that Aryans face" and only complains that they don't then take action. Meanwhile you've provided... WHAT proof that he is the left-winger you asserted he was? Oh yeah, that's right. Nothing. Except the ultra-weak argument that he's a Democrat, which of course does not equate with left-winger, especially for people of his age and background. So... nothing.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh If the "game" is how many unfounded assertions one can post, then, yes, Dabob wins. That's not a game I'm interested in playing.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 No kidding. And still no backup other than the ultra-weak one for his claim that von Brunn was a left-winger. As usual. And yet he attempts to turn things around and say that those providing evidence, in the form on von Brunn's own words, are the ones providing "unfounded assertions," while he has somehow proven his claim. Which is completely backwards. As usual.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***how many unfounded assertions one can post*** Balderdash. Please analyze Dabob's first paragraph in post 111, point by point, and explain why each point is untrue. I double dog dare you.
Originally Posted By Mr X You know what? On second though, don't. You're right. It's no game and it's no fun having a conversation with you. In fact, it's downright pathetic, and you are not worth it. Keep believing exactly what you will, Doug. Hope it makes you happy (apparently living in a bubble of denial can be quite a comfort for some). Good luck, and have a good life!
Originally Posted By Mr X A great quote I just stumbled upon... "Because when I think of a neo-nazi white supremacist shooting a black guy in the Holocaust museum while wearing a confederate flag cap...the first thing that pops into my head is liberal.” ~ John Cole"
Originally Posted By DAR <<Balderdash.>> Balderdash??? Balderdash??? What are we in the early 1900's with top hats, bushy mustaches, drinking port and saying everything is bully.
