Originally Posted By gadzuux Was she paid for this thing? If so, that's sex for money - the world's oldest profession.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt I wonder who she showed the video to? I assume that that person or persons are responsible for getting it into the hands of the Miss USA lawyers.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Was she paid for this thing? If so, that's sex for money - the world's oldest profession." I'm thinking that she made it for a boyfriend or lover.
Originally Posted By LoyalOrderWaterBuffa ~~~~Shut up Beau~~~~ even though i grew up in the age of personal computers, video games and cel phones unlike probably many of you i am very ignorant about these things. i don't like them because i dont understand them. electronic communication is hard for me. i am a face to face kind of gal. you are now the second person to call me a~~~beau~~~ . i guess it is soemEthing pretty bad on the internet. ~~~~Automanipulation is one thing, making a solo action porno video is something else entirely.~~~~ but who was the audience and was it purposely distributed? I did that but i never sent it around to people. it was for my own amusement. So is that wrong or sinful? self pleasuring can take many forms and if she intended her video to be just for her but it ~~~got out there by mistake~~~ then i just can't fault her. but if she was trying to circulate it then i agree with everyone here about her hypocrisy and she ~~~made her bed~~~ ~~~~Also, she signed an agreement that said she had never done any porn or nude videos, which obviously the Miss USA pageant found out she lied about.~~~~ well now she broke the contract then and should not get anything. our words should match our actions and she messed that up really bad.
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF OK, she admits to it: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZZGVWUlSLU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...GVWUlSLU</a>
Originally Posted By SFH Hey, wait a second. If she was 17, doesn't that mean TMZ and the pageant are guilty of possessing, viewing, and in the pageant's case, exhibiting "child porn"? Of course, in that case, she would be guilty of producing and distributing as well. Am I wrong? Or is it "Yeah, you're right, but nobody is going to prosecute."? Seriously, what if some 50-year-old nobody guy was in possession of this tape and was caught?
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Am I wrong? Or is it "Yeah, you're right, but nobody is going to prosecute."?<< I think it's the second part. Certainly if it turns out she was seventeen and then this gets leaked to the Internet, anyone possessing it could be charged. But I doubt anyone will be charged at this point. Although there have been some overzealous prosecutors who have charged 14 and 15 year old girls with distributing child porn because they sent naked pictures of themselves to their boyfriends from their cell phones. So technically it could happen.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 My question, is that if this was a tape just for her boyfriend, how did this get out? I mean, it would have to have been him, or somebody who knew about it and took a copy.
Originally Posted By gadzuux So she sues, is exposed for flagrant hyporcrisy, withdraws her suit, and is paid $100,000. Nice work if you can get it. [excerpts] >> Former Miss California Carrie Prejean on Tuesday defended a recently surfaced erotic video of her as a youthful indiscretion and questioned whether it could actually be called a “sex tape” since no one else appears in it. “It was me by myself. There was no one else with me. I was not having sex,” the controversial beauty queen told TODAY’s Meredith Vieira in New York. Prejean admitted that making the video of herself and sending it — an act that other teens have been prosecuted as sex offenders for doing — was a bad decision. “It was the biggest mistake of my life,” she told Vieira. Prejean admitted to making the video of herself and sending it to her boyfriend when she was 17 years old. The tape surfaced during a negotiating session with the Miss California pageant officials over a lawsuit Prejean filed against the organization for stripping her of her crown earlier this year. When the tape’s existence was revealed, Prejean dropped her suit and settled with the officials, who reportedly paid her $100,000 to go toward her legal expenses. “You can call it whatever you want to call it. If you want to call it a sex tape, that’s fine,” Prejean told Vieira. “I sent it to my boyfriend at the time. I was a teenager. I cared about him. I trusted him,” she added. “I think now they call it ‘sexting.’ Prejean told Vieira she remains convinced that everything that’s happened to her is because of her beliefs. “The biggest thing is Americans believe their beliefs are under attack, and this is proof,” she told Vieira, adding that the sex tape is another example of what her enemies will do to attack her. “All I know is there is a campaign against me trying to silence me,” Prejean said. “They tried to embarrass me. They tried to humiliate me. They tried to attack me. And I’m still standing.” “I think that there is a liberal bias in the media, and it’s unfortunate that conservative women are attacked for their beliefs. It’s unacceptable and it shouldn’t happen. So many Americans are frustrated. So many Americans believe that their beliefs are under attack, and they should be silent and free speech doesn’t exist.” Prejean specifically mentioned Keith Olbermann, host of MSNBC’s “Countdown,” who has recently criticized her for what he calls her hypocrisy. “There is an extreme double standard that conservative women are under attack for whatever it is,” Prejean told Vieira. “If Sean Hannity went out there and said some of the things that Keith Olbermann has said about me, if he says anything about [Sonia] Sotomayor, Michelle Obama, he would be off the air. Why is there this double standard? ‘No one is perfect’. In her book, Prejean talks about her Christian beliefs and condemns the ubiquity of pornography. Young women should resist the pressures of popular culture, of sex, she said, writing, “Our bodies are temples of the Lord. We should earn respect and admiration for our hearts, not for showing skin to look sexy.” << <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33823079/ns/today-today_people/" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33..._people/</a>
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 Oh brother...anything she can do to spin it. I can't believe she's comparing herself to Michelle Obama and Sonia Sotomayor! And...considering what Fox News has actually said about both of those women, I don't think she's got an argument. Plus, it's not like either of those women have sex tapes and nude photos in their past...or do they, LOL? It's just such crap that she manages to make this an attack thing, like she's completely blameless. The lawsuit, and sex tape were not brought on by the media...she shirked her obligation, and broke some rules along the way. She made more than one "big mistake" if you ask me. Also...she's only in the limelight again because of the tape...nobody cared about her until that came out. So, she's publicizing herself, nobody is "picking on her" anymore. She needs to just go away...PLEASE!!
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>“If Sean Hannity went out there and said some of the things that Keith Olbermann has said about me, if he says anything about [Sonia] Sotomayor, Michelle Obama, he would be off the air. Why is there this double standard?<< Either she hasn't watched Hannity very often or else she doesn't understand what the term "double standard" means.
Originally Posted By LoyalOrderWaterBuffa ~~~~overzealous prosecutors who have charged 14 and 15 year old girls with distributing child porn because they sent naked pictures of themselves to their boyfriends~~~~ so if their boyfriends see and touch breasts and groins it is ok but if the boyfriends only see a picture of what they are allowed to see and touch live and in person they can go to jail? real thing, OK picture of real thing, crime that makes no sense and no wonder why america is going to hell in a handbasket and people think we are crazy,
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 ^^ Actually, kids have been prosecuted for having consensual sex before the age of consent too. I do not know if the charges have stuck but there have been stories of 14 and 15 year olds being charged with statutory rape because they were under age.
Originally Posted By LoyalOrderWaterBuffa ~~~there have been stories of 14 and 15 year olds being charged with statutory rape because they were under age.~~~~ i don't understand. if a 15 year old girl has sex with a 15 year old boy are you saying that both parties are charged for raping each other? or is it just the boy or is it just the girl who is charged. I don't get it since the playing field is level when both gals and guys are same age and underage. how can two people rape each other? paint me confused as always. {i guess it is possible if first the boy ties the girl up and does her. and then she escapes and ties him up and rapes him back. Would that ever happen?} are yo sure you are right about that Princessjenn?
Originally Posted By skinnerbox She is correct. A fifteen-year-old boy having consensual sex with his fifteen-year-old girlfriend will be charged with statutory rape for having sex with a minor. He'll also get a statutory rape charge if he's 18 and she's under 18, with the added bonus of sexual offender registration, even if his girlfriend is only weeks away from turning 18. There are documented cases of this exact scenario, with the boyfriends getting labeled as a sexual predators for the rest of their lives, simply because their girlfriends of many years were a few weeks or months younger than they were.
Originally Posted By imadisneygal Yes, it's true. Even though it's only a misdemeanor for two minors less than three years apart in age to have sex with each other, it's still against the law. Statutory rape doesn't mean against someone's will. It usually is with the consent of both parties. However, depending on the age of consent in whichever state they reside, they may not be legally able to consent to sex thereby making it a crime. Sexual assault against someone's will is another story altogether. But, since the persons involved are not yet at the age of consent it's illegal for them to have sex at all.
Originally Posted By LoyalOrderWaterBuffa ~~~~~~~~~ real thing, OK picture of real thing, crime ~~~~~~~~~~ I have been thinking about how dumb these laws are. as if to say the shadow of an ax maniac is more dangerous than the ax maniac himself so any image of nude teens is illegal? can not be and should not be.