Originally Posted By Mr X **So the trick is to have low capacity on the attraction, so that there is always a line and it looks popular.** I don't buy the "capacity" excuse. Popular rides always have lines. (that's obvious) I remember SOME lines back in the day...but when I say "NO" lines I really mean it. I mean...not a single visitor. Not before me. Not after me. Not 10 minutes after me. As in...empty. That's different (totally different) from a high capacity ride like haunted mansion that sometimes funnels people through rather quickly.
Originally Posted By Mr X Jon, I dunno why but wonders of life worked pretty nicely for what it was... I think the overall theme of the place was cool, and the interactive stuff inside was nice. Body Wars was gross (for me), but it served it's purpose as the "highlight". I really enjoyed Cranium Command (in its' day) and the interactive stuff. I do miss that pavilion.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I kind of miss Wonders of Life. I loved Body Wars and enjoyed the making of me. Cranium Command was super cute too. But the destruction of the World of Motion and Horizons to put in the alternatives show me how much I am an old fashioned baffoon. I miss them greatly.
Originally Posted By Mr X You're not "old fashioned". You just know quality when you see it. Can't say I loved Body Wars though...made me sick. I did love the overall pavilion lots though, and ADORED Cranium Command (it wasn't dated back when I enjoyed it). Remember those "hot/cold" trick metal things they had? Those were neat.
Originally Posted By jonvn I'm not thrilled with those sorts of things. I didn't get sick with body wars. I didn't get anything. It was Star Tours with a different movie. I was pretty unimpressed with the whole pavilion, really.
Originally Posted By Mr X I liked it. I guess cranium command was a part of it, although the first time I visited I missed it and didn't even know about it... Only saw it the second time thanks to the birnbaum guidebook. But, I enjoyed the pavilion for whatever reason. (I liked all of em, actually...never really even had a favorite)
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>I liked all of em, actually...never really even had a favorite<<< I like them all, but SSE has always been my absolute fav, followed by Horizons. The sad thing is, with Disney these days, something like Epcot would likely not be built.
Originally Posted By Mr X Actually Dave, if I had to pick two favorites those would be mine as well! (followed perhaps by the land and the sea...)
Originally Posted By nbodyhome They still had the hot/cold things in December 2006. Kids seemed to get a big kick out of that. I loved Cranium Command, and The Making of Me was always a favorite. It was a very, very well done film. I wish they'd put those out on DVD.
Originally Posted By disneykid90 ALot of these rides being taken out like that sadens me. I have gone to DW since before I was one. I remember alot of the stuff like Horizons, WoM, etc. I remember those as what made Disney fun. Those were what I noted to certain parks. The part that really saddens me is the fact that I was young and too young to remember the detail and greatness of those attractions. Their a blur in the mist to me. All I can remeber was I enjoyed them
Originally Posted By mickey_ring here's a site dedicated to Horizons. www.horizons1.com great info, photos and stuff.
Originally Posted By smctopia And here's the recently updated Walt Dated World section on Horizons: <a href="http://www.waltdatedworld.bravepages.com/id41.htm" target="_blank">http://www.waltdatedworld.brav epages.com/id41.htm</a>
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Hmm...I can't get the link to work. I've been having trouble getting to your page recently, so it might just be me...
Originally Posted By nbodyhome I just ordered the Horizons DVD from Jeff Langes site (and the Imagination one), looking forward to enjoying the attractions. I don't tend to remember much about attractions once they close.
Originally Posted By mousermerf A thoughts.. How do people not know about attractions? Let's pare down the park map to a single fold out page and trim attraction descriptions that used to be a full single page them self per pavilion down to to a single 3-word line!!! It killed Horizons, it killed Wonders, it's not taken Energy yet because it managed to keep the word "Dinosaurs" and that excites people. "is this the dinosaur ride?" "Why yes, yes it is!" 35% of park total, which is very solid, in case you cared. E-tickets are around 50-60% depending on the ride and capacity, with SSE ranging from 70 to 90% because of it's high capacity (slower the day, the more of the total it does) Figment? Don't ask..
Originally Posted By jonvn "35% of park total, which is very solid, in case you cared" Wait, what is this a percent of and what does it relate to? I don't know what you mean.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome >> 35% of park total, which is very solid, in case you cared" Wait, what is this a percent of and what does it relate to? I don't know what you mean. << I'm not sure what the post refers to at all.
Originally Posted By Barndog I think you're all missing the point about why there seems to be fewer "long duration" Disney rides. It has nothing to do with short attention spans, but rather, giving visitors a wide variety of ride experiences using unique vehicles. For a long-duration ride, you must have a slow-moving vehicle travelling along a large track. The two most common "slow vehicles" are dark ride/omnimover cars and boats. Unfortunately, when EPCOT opened it was ALL slow-moving vehicles (SSE, Horizons, WoM, Energy, Imagination, Listen to the Land, El Rio del Tiempo). One could argue that there was very little ride variety, both in the vehicles and the animatronic-heavy attractions themselves. (During that same time at the MK, you had omnimovers and boats, but there were also trains, steamboats, roller coasters, spinners, submarines, and skyways) It makes sense that Disney would want to explore new technologies to expand its ride vehicle offerings, not only at EPCOT but also the other parks. So they developed audio-enhanced roller coaster cars, wire-guided elevator drop vehicles, variable-speed race cars, multi-arm centrifuges, a variety of motion-based vehicles, and aerial lift cages that ascend into Omnimax screens. Disney's advancements in ride vehicle technology is often overlooked, but it shouldn't be underestimated. But the tradeoff of such innovative technology is either faster vehicle speeds or lower capacity...both of which prohibit "long duration" attractions. For example, Test Track has THE LONGEST TRACK of a Disney attraction, but since the vehicle is so fast, the ride duration is fairly short. In order to maintain a high rider capacity (and hence, shorter lines) Soarin and Mission Space must turn-over their vehicles more frequently than, say, PoC...which means a shorter ride. (In theory, Disney could have built more theaters/vehicles and then made those attractions longer-lasting, but I'm sure that was cost-prohibitive.) Does that mean "long duration" Disney attractions are history? I don't think so. It sounds like DCA's future "Little Mermaid" attraction could top PoC's run time. Im guessing Toy Story Mania will also be fairly lengthy. Lets hope the rumored "Imagination" rehab will extend the track (which WAS cut short by now-replaced misguided management). Keep in mind, the Living Seas track was recently extended, so its not totally unheard of.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Unfortunately, when EPCOT opened it was ALL slow-moving vehicles" This is true, there was a lot of the sameness in the original rides at epcot. They all looked a lot alike. And after seeing a recent video of World Of Motion, eh...well, it was an awful lot like Spaceship Earth. Spaceship Earth tells the story of progres better, though. Test Track is not such a bad thing. I would like for it to have more ideas in there about futuristic vehicles at the end, though. Instead, it kind of looks like a auto showroom. Well, I guess because it is...
