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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    This is sort of off topic, but is Test Track really the longest track? It wouldn't surprise me at all, but I would think that that the Railroad might have a longer one, or possibly the DL Monorail (I'm not exactly sure what of that counts as an attraction though).
     
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    Originally Posted By bobbelee9

    <<Keep in mind, the Living Seas track was recently extended, so its not totally unheard of. >>

    Not really, they brought back the ride that they removed years ago.
     
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    Originally Posted By brotherdave

    Test Track has a long track, but I can't believe that it's longer than the WDW Railroad at the Magic Kingdom. And it's certainly not as long as the EPCOT Monorail in terms of length, but I'm sure they don't count the monorails when describing 'longest ride' since the monorails are considered transportation.
     
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    Originally Posted By Barndog

    They DID extend The Seas track....significantly. It was only a 3 minute ride in the old days that only went thru the underwater tunnels.

    the ride is still relatively short, but there wasnt much space to expand it (and I'm truly amazed at how much extra space they were able to squeeze out of that building)
     
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    Originally Posted By mousermerf

    What's ambiguous about "park total"?

    Just stop and think about it.. (I'm not being mean or snarky)

    Total guest count for the day.
     
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    Originally Posted By mousermerf

    Oh, and before we get into any "Disney doesn't post any numbers, how can you know?"

    They tape the guest through-put printouts from little excel spreadsheets on the back of the doors at attractions after busy periods so folks can see where things need to improve operationally. It also lists the percentage of the park total each attraction took that day.

    The park totals are not some highly guarded secret like some DL'ers would like you to believe.
     
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    Originally Posted By mousermerf

    About Test Track - the monorail refers to it as the "longest and fastest ride" in Disney.
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    "What's ambiguous about "park total"?"

    Well, it has no meaning. Is that a daily figure of attendance? You gave percents, but did not apply it to anything. You needed to clarify that.

    So, what you were saying is that Energy gets 35% of the daily park attendance per day?
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    mousermerf, I'm pretty sure most folks don't bother looking at what's taped to the backs of doors at attractions...relatively speaking that IS a secret (or at least obviously "employee stuff"). It's also something most people don't care about. Why would they?

    About test track being "the longest and fastest ride", it sounds like they're talking about thrill rides.

    It's not like they'd say "hey, ride the choo-choo train, it's the LONGEST ride in the park!".

    But they might say "longest coaster" or whatever about thunder mountain, for example, or "highest drop" for splash mountain etc...
     
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    Originally Posted By mousermerf

    Why would they care about such numbers? Because it makes sitting around talking about how popular or unpopular any given attraction is based on some grand-poobah's "opinion" on a website an entirely moot point.

    Of relatively similar attractions (for example, you can't compare it to Making of Me which maxes out around 300 guests per hour) Journey into Imagination with Figment is the absolutely worst performing ride in its type (similar capacity, ride system, etc..).

    But it's still there and people are debating if Energy, which is actually relatively quite popular, needs to be torn down and redone first. For some reason people are not seeing what the problem at Epcot really is right now.
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    ' For some reason people are not seeing what the problem at Epcot really is right now.'

    Which is what? Dude, I want to hear what you have to say, but I think you're speaking in riddles. Be a little clearer in what you mean.
     
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    Originally Posted By mousermerf

    Quoth the crazy lady in the diner in "The Birds"

    "Think you're the cause of all this, I think you're evil - evil! EVIL!!!!!"

    *points to Journey in Imagination with Figment*

    Kill that cancer, let the bad blood run out, and the park well be well on its way to righting itself.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    Oh, brother!

    I thought Imagination was fine. Maybe not quite as nice as the original, but what can ya do?

    Cancer? Puleeze.
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    My kid liked imagination. We went on it a couple times.

    I don't think that Imagination is "The" problem with epcot. The problems with epcot are:

    1) Stagnation in world showcase.
    2) Loss of theme focus
    3) Cartoons inapporpirately added.
     
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    Originally Posted By smctopia

    For those who could see the Walt Dated World link, hit "refresh" a few times to updated your cache. We had server probs this past weekend.

    <a href="http://www.waltdatedworld.bravepages.com/id41.htm" target="_blank">http://www.waltdatedworld.brav
    epages.com/id41.htm</a>

    Visit Walt Dated Worl
     
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    Originally Posted By smctopia

    Er, make that cound NOT see. We need spell check on here!

    Visit Walt Dated World
     
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    Originally Posted By mrkthompsn

    They should speed up the Magic Kingdom railroad train and try to beat the Test Track record.
     
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    Originally Posted By dshyates

    I bet the monorail comes close to test track speeds. If not, then surely the hotel busses can.
     
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    Originally Posted By magnet

    ...but when you smile on the monorail or buses, you don't get bugs in your teeth.
     
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    Originally Posted By dshyates

    Can you see a billboard with one of the white busses with the big red scripty Disney on the side, along the top it reads "Disney's Fastest Attraction: get to the rides faster!"
     

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