Originally Posted By mousermerf As for the "wait and see" folks who think there is more narration or change coming.. Worked wonderfully for SSE and the blue triangles didn't it? You "wait and see" folks are WDI's safety net that allows them to keep cranking out crapfast after crapfast. Then the crap becomes the commonplace, and they lower the bar even more the next time. What is wrong with you people that you can't see what is happening? What are you waiting for? The parks to have a deafening creative silence that matches your internal mental monologue with short burst of "oo, shiny" and "look all the lovely plush and pins I can buy.." Well screw your wait and see, I've seen it, it sucks.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<As for the "wait and see" folks who think there is more narration or change coming.. Worked wonderfully for SSE and the blue triangles didn't it? You "wait and see" folks are WDI's safety net that allows them to keep cranking out crapfast after crapfast.>> Who exactly are the 'wait and see' folks? I'm not thrilled with most of what has come out of WDI (at least in FLA) over this decade, but I generally like to experience something before I judge it when it comes to something as visceral as theme park experiences. I have no idea if the TTA spiel is as bad as some say. I hope not. But, even if it is I believe there are far bigger issues at WDW. <<Then the crap becomes the commonplace, and they lower the bar even more the next time. What is wrong with you people that you can't see what is happening? What are you waiting for? The parks to have a deafening creative silence that matches your internal mental monologue with short burst of "oo, shiny" and "look all the lovely plush and pins I can buy.." Well screw your wait and see, I've seen it, it sucks. >> I think you're anger here is misplaced. This site isn't full of management apologists. That would be the site that banned you. Perhaps, you should head back over there. Ohhhh ... is that a new LE $16.95 pin????????????? WOW!!!!!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>> Worked wonderfully for SSE and the blue triangles didn't it? <<<< Merf, you kidding me? You were the biggest Fanboi for a SSE Finale refurb. It's not done. Ask around. Get some intel. You should know, of all people. All that needs is for Seimens or TDO to grow a pair (Wow, there's a double entendre!!) and to plunk down a check for those screens to be turned on and a certain song to be back. Amazing how you've completely changed outlook for a different site. Classy.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Those sources your believe on a new SSE finale are lying. Flat out lying.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Further - they are not screens, there is no method or mode to present visual information on them aside from the occasional blacklight to highlight the paintjob. There is nothing there. You were lied to.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>>Those sources your believe on a new SSE finale are lying. Flat out lying. Further - they are not screens, there is no method or mode to present visual information on them aside from the occasional blacklight to highlight the paintjob. There is nothing there. You were lied to. <<<<< Oh, Merf, you've always been good for a laugh, but this? You really have to be kidding. I have it on good authority. Lee does. Martin does. Spirit does. You REALLY think that we were all lied to when we all have different sources? Talk about confirmation bias! Talk about being impatient. This *is* going to take a while. We've seen that. It's already been two years. But, like I said before...All it takes is Seimens to plunk down their check for sponsorship at the start of a new fiscal year. Who knows...It could have happened this October 1st. And not screens?! I REALLY seem to remember you going through WHOLE THREADS on Magic with proof that they were. Remember being all excited when a few weeks after opening they were added? Remember thinking that they are not there just to help the ambiance? Unless you've had some major revelation , I fail to see your point. As I say to jt on Magic...proof? I'm waiting.
Originally Posted By Labuda One reaction: "The ride is now once again refered to as the Peoplemover like it was pre-1994" HALLELUJAH!!!
Originally Posted By -em >>I have no idea if the TTA spiel is as bad as some say. I hope not. But, even if it is I believe there are far bigger issues at WDW. << I rode TTA and didn't mind the new spiel at all.. My biggest issue with it is some audio pieces were too long for the track area and so the end was pretty quiet/muffled as you were out of speaker range by then... Yes there were more spiel spots but they did fit the track area they were in and it wasn't constant spieling... -em
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Well screw your wait and see, I've seen it, it sucks. now that's the way to win people over to your side or an issue - oh brother
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Well screw your wait and see, I've seen it, it sucks. << Now were talkin'!
Originally Posted By Spyderman >>Oh, Merf, you've always been good for a laugh, but this? You really have to be kidding. I have it on good authority. Lee does. Martin does. Spirit does. You REALLY think that we were all lied to when we all have different sources? Talk about confirmation bias! Talk about being impatient. << Lee gets his insider info from the internet. Martin gets second hand inside info and Spirit has not said anything about bringing back tomorrow's child or changing the descent. I have said from day one there will be no further changes/additions to SSE until the next major overhaul which is probably a decade out. Disney doesn't care about this stuff anymore.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Lee gets his insider info from the internet. Martin gets second hand inside info and Spirit has not said anything about bringing back tomorrow's child or changing the descent. << For someone who gets his informtion from the internet Lee sure seems to be on top of things. Really in the lead when it comes to WDW. I think your source of information about Lee is faulty. As for Martin Smith he is one of the most knowledgeable people out there when it comes to WDW. I wish he posted over here. Putting people down from another site, behind their back, really isn't a class thing to do.
Originally Posted By Spyderman >>For someone who gets his informtion from the internet Lee sure seems to be on top of things. Really in the lead when it comes to WDW. I think your source of information about Lee is faulty. As for Martin Smith he is one of the most knowledgeable people out there when it comes to WDW. I wish he posted over here. Putting people down from another site, behind their back, really isn't a class thing to do. << I like lee and martin alot and have spoken with both many times. How am I putting them down? If I said "lee suxx" i could see you saying that but im just explaining to EE that there sources could easily be wrong.
Originally Posted By MPierce By your own words they lack creditabilty. Both Lee, and Martin have acknowledged they have inside sources at Disney. Here read what you said again. >> Lee gets his insider info from the internet. Martin gets second hand inside info and Spirit has not said anything about bringing back tomorrow's child or changing the descent. << How can you state this as fact? If you are such big buds with Lee, and Martin did they give you this information on the side? Did it ever occur to you that Spirit might not know what's going on with SSE? There is a reason you keep getting banned ar wdwmagic. Making off handed comments about other posters when you really don't have a clue about what's going on. That is not a good way to endear yourself to a sites owner. You really seem like a nice enough guy. I just wish you would be a little more careful with the way you attempt to potray people who's opinions differ from yours.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Lee is becoming Corrus 2.0 - his sources are drying up. I like Martin but he also recently thought something was "new" at Epcot because he simply hadn't noticed it before. I considered signing up, posting politely, etc.. to correct the misunderstanding, but then thought - why bother? People believe everything mMartin says but everything he says isn't true (and not because he's intentionally lying.) Spirit is more Op-Ed then factual. Others, behind the scenes, have indeed intentionally lied about this project. Those are not "screens."
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Lee gets his insider info from the internet. Martin gets second hand inside info and Spirit has not said anything about bringing back tomorrow's child or changing the descent. I have said from day one there will be no further changes/additions to SSE until the next major overhaul which is probably a decade out. Disney doesn't care about this stuff anymore. <<< You sir, are wrong on both accounts. Not being rude, but, it is what it is. ;-)
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>>I like Martin but he also recently thought something was "new" at Epcot because he simply hadn't noticed it before. I considered signing up, posting politely, etc.. to correct the misunderstanding, but then thought - why bother? People believe everything mMartin says but everything he says isn't true (and not because he's intentionally lying.)<<<< May I ask what it was? And can you tell us what the Screens *really* are? You know...Besides screens.
