Originally Posted By StitchDude >E-books? No. People are fundamentally lazy. If somethign is simply easier without the tech, then they don't use the tech. A book is very simple to use, and nothing has come along that makes it any easier or better, so e-books just don't cut it.< I agree in general but the e-books could be great.Especially for college age people. Imagine a one time large purchase for the device and then you could just download the books for your classes. That would be great.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Also, the software used detects standard shelf life and will also tell you if food is bad." There is this device we have, it's called a nose. It's been doing a good job of telling us if food is spoiled for a while now. And if you are done with something, maybe you DON'T WANT any more of it. I'm sure some people will like it. Maybe for the elderly it will have some use. But if it doesn't take away me having to do something, I don't see the necessity of it.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Imagine a one time large purchase for the device and then you could just download the books for your classes. That would be great. " That might be. But it probably would not be any cheaper.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy But it would be more lightweight than lugging a sack of books around.
Originally Posted By 2001DLFan <<davewasbaloo: It's scanned as you pull it out of the fridge, but like I say, with RFID chips, no scanning will be required. Also, the software used detects standard shelf life and will also tell you if food is bad. The last thing I forgot to say, you can hook the fridge up to a contact center. If the fridge is not open during a particular period of time, the contact center can call the person's home. If it then surpasses a longer period, someone can pop around. This is really a tool to allow older people to live in their own homes longer without the need of a nursing home. It is pretty cool stuff.>> Well, first of all, half the stuff in my fridge is leftovers. Other items are opened and used over time. So they re constantly removed and replaced. Does this fridge know the difference as to when an item is removed and returned? As for the leftovers, is it expected that the user apply RFID tags to those items? If so, forget it, people won’t do that.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo RFID's would detect that it is the same product going in and out (like a block of cheese, bottle of milk, a bottle of ketchup etc.). Leftovers would not be detected.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros That would be kind of funny if your fridge told you it was time to restock on leftovers...
Originally Posted By LogDog But, would you actually "want" RFIDs? Not in my house, not in my stuff, not in my family, and definately not in me
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Sure I would want them. They don't really do anything bad that I can see. They basically work the same way as a traditional barcode, but make it easier to find how much stock is left in a store. Instead of scanning each individual package, someone can walk by and scan for the frequency. Then with however many responses, they know how many are sitting on the shelf or in the stock room. Sure, there are tiny ammounts of radio waves being emitted from them, but that's only when they are being scanned. The vast majority of products that have them today don't have their own batteries, and just react when stiumlated by the scanner. There is really nothing wrong with it at all. It's certainly no worse than any radiation or anything that you would get from a wireless internet system or radio waves or a TV station that sends out waves. Really, there are far worse things out there that have been there for years without any adverse affects, but even those aren't that bad. And there's no way that they would be in you or your family, unless you were doing something strange. The ID is on the packaging of the product, not mixed into the food itself. It makes it easy enough to scan to find out how many units of whatever it is are left on the shelf or in the fridge, but it would not tell you how much of it is left (with cases like milk, eggs, or ketchup). There would be no direct contact between the food and the RFID, so I don't see what the problem is.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy RFID will be wonderful when it's fully realized. Imagine filling up your cart at the store and just walking up to the counter, and in about 2 seconds without anything being scanned you can have your total tallied and ready to checkout. At the Wal-Mart, you wouldn't have any reason to take you items out of the cart -- except maybe to bag them. Just push your cart through the register stall and it knows from the RFID tags exactly what you have picked out.
Originally Posted By StitchDude These are the same things they have been putting in dogs for years aren't they? If they are I don't want them around. I know in this case we are talking about being on a label but the dog ID thing sounded great, I was totally on board with this. But now Veterinarians are saying that dogs with this are having a higher caner rate than those with out them. i just dont see a need to risk it because 99 times out of 100, going to the grocery store is not that bad, especially since we can go online and tell them what we need and not having Big Brother Albertsons looking in my fridge.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << 99 times out of 100, going to the grocery store is not that bad >> You definitely don't shop at the same places I do. My grocery stores are miserable. Never enough check-outs open. Too many people in EMVs clogging the aisles so you can't get by. Shelves out of stock. I hate the grocery store.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros This isn't a Big Brother thing. At most, the chips can be read from about 10 meters away. So, unless there are folks from the grocery story hiding in your bushes (which I think would cause problems without the RFID's), there is no way for them to know what you have or haven't eaten yet. The chips in the dogs are much different, because they need to be read from much much larger distances than those in a fridge. Being able to scan the city for you pet with the click of a button is great, but there's no need to scan the city for cartons of milk, so they won't use the longer range (and much more expensive) chips for that. I believe the dog ones also have their own energy source, which would greatly increase the risk of cancer. Most of all, they are physically implanted in the dog itself. Personally, if I had something radioactive in my house that I had to keep there, I would think that a refrigerator would be one of the safest places to put it, since it's so big and bulky that it would block most of the radiation anyway. But with this case, they don't radiate anything unless they are activated by a scanner, which you would do yourself. The risk of cancer would be much less inside, next to your fridge full of groceries, than it would be in the time it takes you to walk into the grocery store from the parking lot. I'm sorry, but I just think that it's absolutely rediculous to think that you would get cancer from an ID tag on your food. In case you didn't know, there are probably already a bunch of RFID's in your house anyway, without you knowing it. They have been placed in all US passports made since 2005, and are found on almost every commercial product that costs more than $10-15. Ever wondered what that little white tag inside your jeans that said "Remove before wearing" was? What about all those stickers inside the DVD cases? They're all the same thing, and they sure don't seem to be doing any harm in my house.
Originally Posted By StitchDude I am not saying, DON'T USE THESE, THEY CAUSE CANCER. I just think it is unnecessary and why take the risk. As far as the ones in dogs, they don't scan the whole city, they are scanned when a dog gets picked up and sent to the pound, they scan it and it comes up with the owners information. I throw away all those little white tags in my DVD's.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Big Brother Albertsons " Do you ever use a club card at a grocery store? Pay with a debit or credit card? Then they are already tracking what you buy and when.
Originally Posted By avromark Well one of the International divisions of this builder built my childhood home. Wouldn't it be amazing if people ohed and ahed at the "ground breaking" radiant floor heaters, the pressure balanced plumbing of the circa 1980's cassette fitted intercom in my childhood home?!
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I hope they have radiant floors, since that would just make me laugh out loud. My grandma had radiant floors in her home when she was a little girl in the 1920's and 30's, and I don't think they were even all that cutting edge then. But every time I see a reference to them (it doesn't matter when the reference was made, yesterday, last year, decades ago), it always makes them sound like they're brand new technology. I just look at that and laugh.
Originally Posted By avromark ^^^ Houses heated with hot water would either have radiant heated floors or rads (which isn't common in newer installations).
