Originally Posted By itsme >>Did any of these guys ever pay attention in Civics? ---- Does the back seat of a Honda Civic count?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <The kids are surrounded by a commercial culture that commodifies sex to increase corporate profits. That is far more damaging than a couple of questions on a survey.> So as long as kids are being damaged, what's a little more exposure huh?
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Interesting to note, the parents did give permission for the event... But the parents were shown all the Questions EXCEPT the sex part, which was not shown.... Why was that??? Was the researcher afraid that parents would say no to the type of questions asked??? Sounds to me like an attempt to bypass parental rights. Here is hoping that the full 9th circuit will hear the case and overrule the 3 judge panal. By the way, here is the actual resolution... H.Res. 547 Expressing the Sense of the House of Representatives that the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit Deplorably Infringed on Parental Rights in Fields v. Palmdale School District Floor Situation The House is scheduled to consider H.Res. 547 under suspension of the rules the week of November 14, 2005. The resolution is debatable for 40 minutes, may not be amended, and requires a two-thirds majority vote for passage. Summary H.Res. 547 resolves that it is the sense of Congress that the fundamental right of parents to direct the education of their children is firmly grounded in the Nation's Constitution and traditions. It is also the sense of Congress that Ninth Circuit's ruling in Fields v. Palmdale School District undermines the fundamental right of parents to direct the upbringing of their children, and that the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit should agree to rehear the case en banc in order to reverse this constitutionally infirm ruling. Background The Palmdale School District sent parents of elementary school students at Mesquite Elementary School in Palmdale, California a letter requesting consent to give a psychological assessment questionnaire to their first, third, and fifth grade students. Without the informed consent of their parents, the young students were instead administered a questionnaire that contained sexually explicit and developmentally inappropriate questions. Seven parents subsequently filed a complaint against the Palmdale School District in a Federal district court. On November 2, 2005, a 3-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed the decision of the United States District Court for the Central District of California in the case (Fields v. Palmdale School District) and held that parents "have no constitutional right . . . to prevent a public school from providing its students with whatever information it wishes to provide, sexual or otherwise, when and as the school determines that it is appropriate to do so." The Ninth Circuit stated, "once parents make the choice as to which school their children will attend, their fundamental right to control the education of their children is, at the least, substantially diminished." In Meyer v. Nebraska, 262 U.S. 390, 401 (1923), the Supreme Court recognized that the liberty guaranteed by the 14th amendment to the Constitution encompasses "the power of parents to control the education of their [children]." The Supreme Court in Pierce v. Society of Sisters, 268 U.S. 510, 534-35 (1925), highlighted the Meyer doctrine that parents and guardians have the liberty "to direct the upbringing and education of children under control" and emphasized that "[t]he child is not the mere creature of the state; those who nurture him and direct his destiny have the right, coupled with the high duty, to recognize and prepare him for additional obligations." In Wisconsin v. Yoder, 406 U.S. 205, 232-33 (1972), the Supreme Court acknowledged that "[t]he history and culture of Western civilization reflect a strong tradition of parental concern for the nurture and upbringing of their children. This primary role of the parents in the upbringing of their children is now established beyond debate as an enduring American tradition. . . . The duty to prepare the child for additional obligations', referred to by the Court [in Pierce] must be read to include the inculcation of moral standards, religious beliefs, and elements of good citizenship." A plurality of the Supreme Court has stated, "it cannot now be doubted that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment protects the fundamental right of parents to make decisions concerning the care, custody, and control of their children" (Troxel v. Granville, 530 U.S. 57, 66 (2000) (plurality opinion)). The Ninth Circuit's decision in Fields v. Palmdale School District presupposes that "parents make the choice as to which school their children will attend" when, in fact, many parents do not have such a choice. The decision in Fields establishes a dangerous precedent for limiting parental involvement in the public education of their children. The rights of parents ought to be strengthened whenever possible as they are the cornerstone of American society.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>So as long as kids are being damaged, what's a little more exposure huh?<< Why get outraged at the candle dripping wax when the house is on fire?
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Tom, go read the last paragraph of the bill... Amazing (in a good way) that a large group of Democrats in the House agree with that statement....
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Why is it amazing? I doubt there is much of anyone that doesn't think that families are the cornerstone of a society. And I think parental rights should be strengthened, particularly when it comes to the interface between families and business.
